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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by Mia Sherwood on Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:10 pm

Because it is true. Remember the butcher and the baker in the old testament? We are fairly certain they were Gentiles. HOWEVER they both had prophetic dreams. God can speak to whomever He wants to whenever He wants to. This just proves that the author of that symbol actually had a prophetic dream and accurately recorded the symbolism. That they have something right is just a testament to the truth. God speaks to us all. That doesn't mean they aren't flooded with error but I am certain they aren't 100% wrong in their dream interpretation.


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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by one1cross on Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:41 am

I just saw this..... Okay are you saying they are right?
As I read this and the Lord has shown me in the past- they are of a diviner spirit- evil/demonic seer) the Lord showed me it this way:

Soothe- sayor= smooth talker
smooth- talker....

Mia, they are of another spirit and your saying they are somewhat right?????
.... your opening up the door for people wanting to go check them out.....

We are not suppose to mix truth with error..... I have a huge problem with this .... One lump ruins the whole batch.....
when you mix error with truth- you are leading people astray.....
There is a huge difference between physic-diviner- and Gods true prophets and dreamers and visions..... and we need to desern and not even even say they are not all wrong, sorry but in my life ....tarot cards and all the spiritual new age stuff is not of GOD!!!!!

1Corinthians 5:6
Your glorying [is] not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?

To me this is not a big red flag but a huge road block!!!!!!!!
, however if allpeople want is to interpet dreams, people wont care if it is witchcraft/ and or tarot cards...than people will do it for self glorying, self lifting up and to say hey look at me, glorying inself instead of God, which we see happening everywhere!!!

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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by sC0rCh3d on Sun Oct 19, 2008 10:31 am

yeah


i think the difference is a matter of intention.


i still don't know how or even WHY a demonic spirit would give someone the ability to interpret dreams.


it's probably the same phenomenon that occurs with the 'UFO SIGHTINGS.'


UFOS are NOT aliens, but demons.


what they do is try to "Awe" people so that at a certain time in the future, people will willingly accept them and have NO reason to suspect them as a THREAT.


all DECEPTION, satan's #1 craft.

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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by Dove-Solutions on Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:43 am

Resolution,

You are very correct in that it is deception from the enemy. He comes to impersonate and awe people into believing they are having a divine encounter with the Lord. That is why it is so necessary for us to have the Holy Spirit so He can reveal the truth to us. Man's interpretation is good but the Holy Spirit is the truth and will give us the truth. Our Spirit should witness to the Spirit that the truth is revealed. Make sense.

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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by Mia Sherwood on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:01 pm

one1cross wrote:I just saw this..... Okay are you saying they are right?
As I read this and the Lord has shown me in the past- they are of a diviner spirit- evil/demonic seer) the Lord showed me it this way:

Soothe- sayor= smooth talker
smooth- talker....

Mia, they are of another spirit and your saying they are somewhat right?????
.... your opening up the door for people wanting to go check them out.....

We are not suppose to mix truth with error..... I have a huge problem with this .... One lump ruins the whole batch.....
when you mix error with truth- you are leading people astray.....
There is a huge difference between physic-diviner- and Gods true prophets and dreamers and visions..... and we need to desern and not even even say they are not all wrong, sorry but in my life ....tarot cards and all the spiritual new age stuff is not of GOD!!!!!

1Corinthians 5:6
Your glorying [is] not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?

To me this is not a big red flag but a huge road block!!!!!!!!
, however if allpeople want is to interpet dreams, people wont care if it is witchcraft/ and or tarot cards...than people will do it for self glorying, self lifting up and to say hey look at me, glorying inself instead of God, which we see happening everywhere!!!

I think you are misintepreting what I said to the extreme. That they are correct in that a car means what it means does not in any way encourage seeking new age. I also said they are loaded down with error. And God does speak to them also regardless of their ignorance. It is not a matter of interpretation.

Nebachanezzar and the pharoah and the butcher and the baker were all idol worhippers (the later two more than likely by not spelled out biblically). God gave prophetic dreams to all of them. But by your post they would be called divining by a demonic spirit. It's not. And calling what the Holy Spirit does demonic is blasphemy. Do be careful.

The four people above are proof that God speaks to everyone, born again or not. With that basis, if God spoke to you 15 times with a car as a symbol, and after the tenth time you realized that every time that you saw a car in your dreams, the thing then happened in real life similar to what you saw in the dream, any person new age or not would finally put two and two together. The difference is that they don't recognize or give the credit that God is speaking to them. This is not divining by another spirit it is a matter of putting two and two together.

Perhaps you should reread what I wrote and do not assume that I am saying something that I am not saying. Please ask before you accuse.

Please do not start fires where there are none.


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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by sC0rCh3d on Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:47 pm

real quick, it just hit me, now I wonder if one should watch movies such as Lord of The Rings...as innocent as that story is.


???


I've always enjoyed it, I've never had problems.


But there are Wizards in the movie, including Gandalf The White, who very much Resembles what Revelation portrays Jesus as...


A shining white rider on an equally shiny white horse.

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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by Mia Sherwood on Sun Oct 19, 2008 4:05 pm

I can't answer you Resolution. I am not familiar with the movies. Maybe somebody else has an opinion.


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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by Mia Sherwood on Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:13 pm

I am not sure if there is an option for that. I don't think anyone has ever asked that before.


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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by Mia Sherwood on Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:48 pm

Ya know they could have copied that definition from a biblically based site.


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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by Mia Sherwood on Sun Oct 19, 2008 6:50 pm

I am wondering if anyone else reading this thread besides onecross needs me to explain what I meant and if they don't understand please ask so that I can explain.


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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by Cholette on Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:10 am

Mia,

What you are saying is clear. No worries!!!! thumbs

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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by Mia Sherwood on Mon Oct 20, 2008 8:34 am

TY bandaid


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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by sC0rCh3d on Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:15 am

In a Car dream, if someone is in your car with you, do they represent some part of yourself?

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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by Mia Sherwood on Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:22 am

No. They are literal.


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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by sC0rCh3d on Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:23 am

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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by Mia Sherwood on Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:35 am

The size usually is symbolic. A bus can be symbolic of a ministry or more than one person's life involved.

Tell me something Resolution, what is the definition of prophetic?


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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by sC0rCh3d on Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:46 am

now is it a Restraunt, Grocery Store, or a Vehicle of some sort that represents ministry?


Because I've dreamed about them all ^^^ at various points.


Prophetic?


as i understand it, it is God speaking into one's life.


sometimes it's about things He wants someone to change
other times it's God speaking of future events.

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Post by Mia Sherwood on Mon Oct 20, 2008 9:56 am

The future events is the point that I am trying to make. When he spoke to Joseph and showed him, by the sun, moon and star dream, that he would be above all his family he was just a young shepherd boy. What you are today is not necessarily who you will be tomorrow and sometimes God gives us these dreams to give us hope and encouragment that something else is around the corner.

Resolution, all symbols depend upon the context of the dream. Personally, I've only seen water, restaurants, and babies symbolize SPECIFICALLY ministry. And the restaurant symbol was for a person who was visiting those ministries. It did not represent that person's ministry.


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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by sC0rCh3d on Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:01 am

what would be the truck and the grocery store?


what was Joseph's dream about the moon and stars?


i don't remember reading that one.

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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by Mia Sherwood on Mon Oct 20, 2008 10:20 am

You can read it here: http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%2037%20;&version=65;

Did you read the message that I wrote about prophetic dreams a couple of weeks ago?

http://miasherwood.forumotion.net/teaching-equiping-posts-f9/prophetic-dreams-that-don-t-mean-much-but-are-actually-prophetic-t867.htm?highlight=prophetic+dreams


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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by daphanie02 on Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:02 pm

Mia, God clearly and plainly led me to this site. There is nothing in my spirit that tells me that you are pleasing man before God. i feel by what you were saying to Resolution, was perfectly acceptable. As there are LOTS of people who have seen the movies or read the books.

Resolution, i have been asking God that question myself. In my personal opinion, i dont feel that the Lord of the Rings in any way brings glory to God. THere is a bunch of symbolism in that movie that leads others to believe it could be about Christianity. JRR Tolkien stated that he never intended for the books to have any spiritual meaning.
I believe that any movie or book that promotes magic or witchcraft as a good thing, is not of God.

In the movie Narnia, there were a lot of mythical creatures. But the only witch or wizard, was the white witch who represented satan. Other than the mythical creatures, i dont believe the movie promoted magic in any way. the special gifts that were given to the children were symbolic for the gifts of the Spirit God gives us to fight the enemy with. CS Lewis was an avid Christian writer and clearly stated from the beggining that his books had a spiritual message.
hope this helps,
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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by sC0rCh3d on Mon Oct 20, 2008 5:08 pm

yeah, movies and books like that can dull a person to the supernatural elements of God which is not good.

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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by Mia Sherwood on Mon Oct 20, 2008 6:24 pm

Thank you, Daph. I appreciate your sweet heart. :bighug:


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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by sC0rCh3d on Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:00 pm

if you see people in your HOUSE does that mean they are Symbollic of you?
if you see people in your CAR does that mean something literal?


i wish we were all seeing each other in real life because doing this on the internet is hard and sometimes we can't really understand what someone is trying to ask and i know that we've all been asking the same question(s)
over and over now.

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Re: Ship or Boat?

Post by hisbeauty4ashes on Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:13 pm

Hey Jeanie here once again with my three cents. lol!

I often thought of what type of ship is so important as well in a dream. If you are in a war ship it means you are in a place of waring with a larger ministry such as a corporate ministry. If you are on a cruse ship I sensed it meant that in this corporate ministry/ship you are moving in the spirit in a place of peace and rest. Often ships represents a corporate ministry and the water in which the ship is in also represents the condition you and the body you are joined with are in. If it is a row boat it often represents works trying to move to fast in the spirit on your own. Like Mia said," a speed boat represents power in the spirit it could be a small power boat or a large power boat. If it is a small one it can represent your personal ministry moving in the power of the Holy spirit. If it is a large speed boat it is a large corporate ministry moving in the power of the Holy spirit together.

I hope this helps my three cents and haha! I think it ended up being my five cents. :roflx:

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