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Post by Mia Sherwood on Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:20 pm

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Post by halfstep1969 on Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:38 pm

I have only spoken in tongues once. It wasn't immediately after I got saved, but, as I was dreaming and praising God in my dream I woke up speaking in tongues. I was so excited. The next day I was hoping to have that same experience, but it was different. The dream I had there was a choir singing, with words written on a chalkboard, about the blood, but it didn't seem right, so I asked who was talking, and I heard a screech, and it was like the whole scene melted like film melting, and I woke up. I woke up with my heart pounding, and I haven't spoken in tongues since.

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Re: Speaking in tongues

Post by Dove-Solutions on Sat Aug 16, 2008 4:04 am

This is a subject that I think will be debated until Jesus returns. I am with Mia on this one. I thought it was strange when I first started and because it didn't come to me immediately after I was saved I was a bit worried that I was making it up. But I can say this......I am not making it up because there is no way I could even pretend to speak this way. I speak in different kinds of tongues when I pray but only then.

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Re: Speaking in tongues

Post by Jodi on Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:06 pm

I am not sure if I really have tongues or not. When I try to speak tongues, it somes out sounding halting and I don't get many words. But when I sing tongues, I usually sing the same sounds I've made before with an occassional new "word" here and there. Is it normal to repeat yourself a lot? Is it normal to not be able to speak the tongue, but be able to sing it? I have never felt the tongue "rise up in me" like I'm bursting to say or sing it. I just try to sing in tongues in the hopes that it might really be a praise to God in a heavenly language. But sometimes I wonder if I am just making it up and singing nothing real in amybody's language.

On the other hand, I once was singing in English a song of praise I'd made up. I went to sleep that night and woke up the next morning singing the same song, but with the word "ich the nae" in place of "dwell within." It sounded Greek to me, so I looked using a translator and found that ich = I, the = God, and nae = with, so "I God with" for "dwell within." i know this is really the Holy Spirit because I didn't know this Greek to be able to make it up.

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Re: Speaking in tongues

Post by Virtuous on Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:05 pm

Mia, I want to apologize to you if this is too long but I have got to voice my beliefs concerning this article. I hope it doesn’t cause me any disciplinary actions but I must say this:
All scripture references are from NLT:
What is interpretation of tongues? It is the companion manifestation to speaking in tongues, designed to be utilized in a body of believers, such that one proclaims in the language of those believers the meaning of what he has just spoken in tongues. Used together in a corporate setting, these two manifestations “edify the church” (1 Cor. 14:5).

I Corinthians 14:13-14– So anyone who has the gift of speaking in tongues should pray also for the gift of interpretation in order to tell people plainly what has been said. 14) For if I pray in tongues, MY SPIRIT IS PRAYING, but I don’t understand what I am saying. No one, not even the devil himself, understands speaking in tongues. When we don’t know what to pray for, God makes intercession, through the Holy Spirit, for us and through us by speaking in tongues that our prayers line up with His Will.

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quote]Properly translated, 1 Corinthians 14:13 says that anyone who speaks in tongues amidst a group of Christians should do so “in order that he may interpret.” The point of speaking in tongues in a body of believers is to follow it with the interpretation so that they are edified.

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Properly translated, huh? This is not properly translated because it doesn’t say that. It says that anyone who has the gift of speaking in tongues should also pray for the gift of interpretations in order to tell people plainly what has been said
Interpretation of tongues is not something that someone other than the one who speaks in tongues can do. 1 Corinthians 14:5 (“unless he interprets”), 13 (“that he may interpret”), and 15 (“I will pray with my spirit [speaking in tongues] and I will also pray with my mind [interpretation of tongues]”) make it clear that the one who speaks in tongues is the only one who can bring forth the manifestation of interpretation of tongues.


Interpretation of tongues is to believers FROM God. Speaking in tongues is the evidence as God gives the utterance for unbelievers; prophecy, however, is for the benefit of believers, not unbelievers. (I Corinthians 14:22). So, is he saying that public tongue interpretation only for the speaker? If so, why would everyone need to know what God is saying to an individual? If that is the case, what should be done when God wants to edify the entire body of Christ? Should everyone speak in tongues and then one of them interprets? If God gives the utterance to the believer, who doesn’t understand what is being spoken, why would you think the believer would be able to give the interpretation (of himself) to God who is the only one understanding because He gave the utterance? Does that make any sense?

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quote]Interpretation of tongues is not something that someone other than the one who speaks in tongues can do. 1 Corinthians 14:5 (“unless he interprets”), 13 (“that he may interpret”), and 15 (“I will pray with my spirit [speaking in tongues] and I will also pray with my mind [interpretation of tongues]”) make it clear that the one who speaks in tongues is the only one who can bring forth the manifestation of interpretation of tongues.

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What?!...come on now. God is not a wasteful God. There is no way He would have a word (to personally or corporately edify) brought through speaking in tongues whether the one speaking has the interpretation or not. The one who is speaking in tongues may not have the gift of interpretation; but at the moment is so sensitive to the spirit of God that God used him/her. God uses whomever He wants to bring forth whatever He wants. We can’t limit God and say He can only pour out His spirit to edify the church through brother/sister so-n-so because of this or that. Nope, I don’t think so. What does I Corinthians 14:26 say? It says when you meet, one will sing, another will teach, another will tell some special revelation God has given, one will speak in an unknown language, while another will interpret what is said.

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quote]At first glance, 1 Corinthians 14:27 might seem to contradict that, but a close look at the verse shows that it says the same thing as the above verses. The NIV misses the point with its translation of “…someone must interpret.” The KJV reads: “…and let one interpret,” which isn’t much better. When we dig a bit deeper, we see that the Greek word for “one” is heis, which can mean “the same one,” and, according to the context, is how it should have been translated so that it agrees with verses 5, 13, and 15
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Is he serious?! Let him tell it, the bible should be rewritten by him. How in the world is he going to make the scripture fit his beliefs? The bible clearly states that nothing is to be added or taken away from God’s word. I mean really now…He said, “How it should have been translated.” Yeah, right. That’s not what verse 27 is talking about anyway. Verse 27 – No more than two or three should speak in an unknown language. They must speak one at time, and someone must be ready to interpret what they are saying.

It is important to note that we can seldom go farther than we are taught.


That’s not what I was taught. That’s not even what I’ve witnessed in all cases. I’ve witness the person speaking in tongues give the interpretation and I’ve witnessed one speaking in tongues and one interpret. This is unreal! Interpreting tongues is openly revealing what God is saying to His people…Sometimes IT IS A PROPHETIC WORD (most of the time? – all of the time?)

When you speak in tongues, the words God gives you are in a language of men or of angels. When you interpret, the words will be in English or whatever is the prevailing language of that particular body of believers. So, you open your mouth and speak in tongues for however long you choose, maybe 20, 30, or 60 seconds, as you are inspired—and when you stop speaking in tongues, you immediately speak the first English (or whatever) words that are “on the tip of your tongue,” and they will be there, because God is never late. Then just keep speaking the words that come to you. And you know that the words will be in the category of praise and thanksgiving to God
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The words are in a language that only God understands which is why only He can bring the interpretation through whomever He chooses. Not just the one speaking in tongues.

While you are speaking in tongues before you interpret, your mind is not involved in that, so tell yourself as often as you need to, “Do not begin the interpretation with ‘My children.’ Start with ‘My Father’ or something else addressed to God.” Then your first words will be “not to men but to God,” and you will find that the rest of what you say will be in that same vein. Amen.

Doing this will take you out of the Spirit. You will be in your flesh and speaking what you want to speak. Yeah, it will be in that same vein, alright. It will be in “vain”. How are you going to feel in your spirit, “My children”, but say “My Father”? That’s out of order. God is telling you to say one thing and you’re going to take it upon yourself to say what YOU want to say?! Does that go together to you?!


Praise vocabulary?! Yes, the book of Psalms is filled with praises of those touched by God. We each praise God in our own way. I will not allow anyone to tell me that I should pattern MY PRAISE off of someone else’s. That is ridiculous. I praise God for me and it’s not for show. It’s because He is worthy of it.



You all…please, please do as Mia suggested…eat the meat and spit out the bones. I advise everyone to study the scriptures referenced in this article against the way they are actually written in God’s word.


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