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Post by swords99 on Mon Sep 27, 2010 6:17 am

My wife and I are born again Christians. Although we know better, we sometimes watch the TV show "Ghost Hunters". My wife was watching it last night. Shortly after it was over she felt unsettled and a little paranoid. She told me she believed satan was bothering her. I told her not to watch the show and to rebuke the devil with Scripture. About 2 hours later, after I had already gone to bed and she was still up, she heard a man's voice say: "boo boo". Now this is my nickname for her and I call her that a lot. She thought I had called out to her but, I was asleep.

Makes one wonder about the power of the wrong TV shows and how satan will use them. Or was it just a coincidence?

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Post by Mia Sherwood on Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:27 am

swords99 wrote:My wife and I are born again Christians. Although we know better, we sometimes watch the TV show "Ghost Hunters". My wife was watching it last night. Shortly after it was over she felt unsettled and a little paranoid. She told me she believed satan was bothering her. I told her not to watch the show and to rebuke the devil with Scripture. About 2 hours later, after I had already gone to bed and she was still up, she heard a man's voice say: "boo boo". Now this is my nickname for her and I call her that a lot. She thought I had called out to her but, I was asleep.

Makes one wonder about the power of the wrong TV shows and how satan will use them. Or was it just a coincidence?

I have experienced the same thing. I TOTALLY believe that watching things that are demonic gives them access to harass.


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Post by Mia Sherwood on Mon Sep 27, 2010 7:32 am

Dove-Solutions wrote:Ok as I read this I just want to say this. First off as Christians we are moving targets for attack from the enemy......but having said that I also say this......we can prevent that.....he cant get to us if we are faithful to Christ. Stay in the Word.....Stay in communication with your Heavenly Father. When we become complacesent then we are open to attack. If we are faithful to the Father than he is there as our defense. It does not mean we will never be attacked but it does mean we will be ready to give a counter measure to the enemy and we will be victorious because Christ was victorious. Am I making any sence here.

As for familiar spirits.....yes they are in existance and people use them all the time. Tarot card readers and fortune tellers is like opening a door to the enemy and saying come on in and destroy a part or all of my life. We are literally inviting him in when we do that. That is called a gateway or a door that we leave open. There is so much more on this subject but time will not permit me to give more info. I will be on tonight and give you the scriptures that discuss all of this.

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I want to add that even when we are in communication with Him there will be attacks but like Connie said, we will win!

I have been attacked when I could not have been any closer to God. I borrowed a Christian book by Watchman Nee from some person who was supposed to be a Christian and after trying to read it I was SERIOUSLY attacked by some demon in my head. Thankfully, we have authority over them because I went to my pastor had him pray and that was the end of that. BUT I lived such a sanctified life that I was AMAZED that I could be attacked like that, and honestly, I get attacked more when I'm devoted to the kingdom than when I was not.


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Post by Cholette on Mon Sep 27, 2010 9:21 am

Watching things on TV is DEFIANTELY an open door. I was watching a comedy movie on Showtime one night. I fell asleep while watching it and I remember feeling something crawling on me and I felt this "yucky" feeling in my spirit man. When I woke up, some scarey movie was on and I jumped up in my bed and grabbed the remote and turned it off. It is real people!! The TV is a door for the enemy.


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Post by randomhit10 on Mon Sep 27, 2010 10:26 am

Mia Sherwood wrote:
lola21st wrote:
Also, I'm not so sure I agree that a truly born-again, Bible believing Christian who places his faith and trust in Christ alone, can be demon possessed. We can be oppressed by satan but that's something entirely different. Jesus does indeed protect our souls if we are born again from the enemy who seeks to steal and destroy it.

I 150% agree with your statement above. However, I don't think that randomhit10 was referring to the general case; I think she was referring to people who intentionally/willfully cross the line to explore and/or participate in the spiritual world knowing that this is disobedience - e.g., witchcraft, attempting to contact the dead, psychics, etc.

What happens to them?

I can tell you from personal experience that you CAN be a born again Christian and be attacked in your body and mind by demons. I believe that many illnesses are the result of demonic power and I personally have been attacked by spirits while praying for people. Think about it, when we pray for people to be healed, Christian, or no, I've heard many Christians pray and take authority over spirits of sickness and disease, even when praying for Christians. That the person has a spirit of infirmity means a spirit was infecting a Christian.

I'm not saying Christians can be completely controlled/possessed by demons but people certainly do have demonic attacks in their minds and their bodies, even when Spirit filled. Thank the LORD that He left us with the authority to kick those spirits out, but there are still battles with them on the battlefield.

GHOST HUNTING?

I think the question is, is it a sin to go hunting for ghosts? (Which basically are spirits.) My opinion is this; God doesn't want us seeking spirits of dead people in place of him. The issue with contacting the dead in the bible was that people contacted them to get answers from them (supernatural answers) instead of waiting on and/or seeking God.

Is it a good idea to go messing around in the spirit realm when we basically have no idea what we are doing? NO!

My personal opinion is that it might not be a sin to ghost hunt but instead of asking people, who basically are usually only barely hitting the surface of any true knowledge of the spiritual realm, my advice is to ask God for the low down. He is the ONLY One that I would trust to answer that question because I'd be afraid for my safety mucking around in that kind of territory.

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excellent answer....and i agree 100%.....but look at it this way also....why would God tell us not to involve ourselves with the spirit world (paranormal) if we were not in grave danger....maybe would could contact a deceased relative but how do you if they are really who they say they are?...the spirit world is where satan and his demonic forces hide and do their work from....by trying to make contact you open yourself up to what ever is out there....and there are some things out there who want to eat you alive....even watching this on tv can open your mind to attack....satan has had thousands of years to learn his craft and he will not miss a chance to come after you....and what can the dead tell you about your life that you would need to know that God can't tell you?....is your life with Christ worth the risk of losing it?....is your life so boring that you need this activity for excitement?....if it is then you better get ready....you will change your life beyond your wildest dreams, in a very bad way.....spend that time fellowshipping with Jesus or go donate your time to a homeless shelter....you will feel a lot better....

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Re: what are familiar spirits and generational curses?

Post by Mia Sherwood on Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:13 am

Cholette wrote:Watching things on TV is DEFIANTELY an open door. I was watching a comedy movie on Showtime one night. I fell asleep while watching it and I remember feeling something crawling on me and I felt this "yucky" feeling in my spirit man. When I woke up, some scarey movie was on and I jumped up in my bed and grabbed the remote and turned it off. It is real people!! The TV is a door for the enemy.



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Re: what are familiar spirits and generational curses?

Post by Mia Sherwood on Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:18 am

randomhit10 wrote:
Mia Sherwood wrote:
lola21st wrote:
Also, I'm not so sure I agree that a truly born-again, Bible believing Christian who places his faith and trust in Christ alone, can be demon possessed. We can be oppressed by satan but that's something entirely different. Jesus does indeed protect our souls if we are born again from the enemy who seeks to steal and destroy it.

I 150% agree with your statement above. However, I don't think that randomhit10 was referring to the general case; I think she was referring to people who intentionally/willfully cross the line to explore and/or participate in the spiritual world knowing that this is disobedience - e.g., witchcraft, attempting to contact the dead, psychics, etc.

What happens to them?

I can tell you from personal experience that you CAN be a born again Christian and be attacked in your body and mind by demons. I believe that many illnesses are the result of demonic power and I personally have been attacked by spirits while praying for people. Think about it, when we pray for people to be healed, Christian, or no, I've heard many Christians pray and take authority over spirits of sickness and disease, even when praying for Christians. That the person has a spirit of infirmity means a spirit was infecting a Christian.

I'm not saying Christians can be completely controlled/possessed by demons but people certainly do have demonic attacks in their minds and their bodies, even when Spirit filled. Thank the LORD that He left us with the authority to kick those spirits out, but there are still battles with them on the battlefield.

GHOST HUNTING?

I think the question is, is it a sin to go hunting for ghosts? (Which basically are spirits.) My opinion is this; God doesn't want us seeking spirits of dead people in place of him. The issue with contacting the dead in the bible was that people contacted them to get answers from them (supernatural answers) instead of waiting on and/or seeking God.

Is it a good idea to go messing around in the spirit realm when we basically have no idea what we are doing? NO!

My personal opinion is that it might not be a sin to ghost hunt but instead of asking people, who basically are usually only barely hitting the surface of any true knowledge of the spiritual realm, my advice is to ask God for the low down. He is the ONLY One that I would trust to answer that question because I'd be afraid for my safety mucking around in that kind of territory.

Love,
mia

excellent answer....and i agree 100%.....but look at it this way also....why would God tell us not to involve ourselves with the spirit world (paranormal) if we were not in grave danger....maybe would could contact a deceased relative but how do you if they are really who they say they are?...the spirit world is where satan and his demonic forces hide and do their work from....by trying to make contact you open yourself up to what ever is out there....and there are some things out there who want to eat you alive....even watching this on tv can open your mind to attack....satan has had thousands of years to learn his craft and he will not miss a chance to come after you....and what can the dead tell you about your life that you would need to know that God can't tell you?....is your life with Christ worth the risk of losing it?....is your life so boring that you need this activity for excitement?....if it is then you better get ready....you will change your life beyond your wildest dreams, in a very bad way.....spend that time fellowshipping with Jesus or go donate your time to a homeless shelter....you will feel a lot better....

randomhit10

I 100% agree and want to make very clear for the record that IT IS A SIN to get advice from dead people. I also agree 100% that the law was made because it is like all of God's other laws: It is for our safety and well being. Spirits are not to be played with. Doesn't the bible say that angels know what they are messing with and they don't mess with it lightly.

My comments on ghost hunting were all from the perspective of just witnessing the presence of ghosts. To me, ghost hunting is not interacting with them or doing anything other than they do on t.v. - basically, looking for evidence of the paranormal and NOT having a seance (sp?) with them.


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Post by Cholette on Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:22 am

Who, in their right mind, is interested in the dead? I just don't get it. When you are filled with life, you don't want to be around death. I've heard of some Christians who study this type of stuff and it baffles me. There is enough to learn in the light...why go to the dark???


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Post by Mia Sherwood on Mon Sep 27, 2010 11:26 am

Cholette wrote:Who, in their right mind, is interested in the dead? I just don't get it. When you are filled with life, you don't want to be around death. I've heard of some Christians who study this type of stuff and it baffles me. There is enough to learn in the light...why go to the dark???

I absolutely stay as far away from it as I can. I don't need to make myself a target for any more issues than necessary. I have enough battles on my plate.


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Post by swords99 on Mon Sep 27, 2010 12:01 pm

When we become spiritually born again into the family of God, the Holy Spirit gives us spiritual gifts. My gift is one of discernment. It never ceases to amaze me when I read a book or other piece of literature that claims to be christian how I can tell from just a paragraph or a few pages whether its true or not. My spirit will get deeply troubled if the writing is not of God. I am not leaning on my own understanding, but the Holy Spirit reveals these things and we all need to pray for discernment.

One time my wife and I decided to visit a new church that was just around the corner from us. I do not remember the name of it. Everyone appeared very friendly. Then I picked up the Bible that was in the pew and before I even opened it I knew God did not want me joining this church. On the cover of this Bible it said BIBLE. That's all it said and it was a red flag for me. Why? Because it was missing the word: HOLY. My spirit became very troubled and we never went back.

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Post by Dove-Solutions on Tue Sep 28, 2010 4:46 am

There is so much on this subject. You guys have done an awesome job of explaining it. ya know we don't have all the answers but we do know this....God is the answer. He sent Jesus as the answer. When Jesus was on the cross and the first drop of blood fell the battle was won. We are covered by the blood of the lamb. Stand on that.....Nothing can cross the blood line. Ask Jesus to paint the blood of Jesus over you each day....before you get out of bed and when you lay down to sleep. Plead the blood over your comings and goings, your family, yourself, your finances, your property, your home, your friends, your vehicles and all motes of transportation, your finances, your pets and animals and even your dreams. You know it is so amazing that when you trust him with your whole life that he will be there bringing the calm to to all situations. The thing is it will seem so calm to you that you won't realize how calm you are until after the situation. When the tornado hit out apartment building a few years ago it was as though I were watching it all happen and everything just got done. I knew it was God but it was the most calm I had ever been in my life. Don't forget that we are joint heirs with Jesus so we have what he has. We have his blood in our veins and nothing can cross the blood line of Jesus because he has won the battle. Remember that the attack is only to divert our attention......but if we stand on the victory......the enemy has no power. That why it says in the word that if we stand strong against the enemy he will flee.....because he has not power because he is a big fat looser. Oh here I go rambling again. I am not saying anything different than you guys, just reiterating it I guess.

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Re: what are familiar spirits and generational curses?

Post by randomhit10 on Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:18 am

Mia Sherwood wrote:
Cholette wrote:Who, in their right mind, is interested in the dead? I just don't get it. When you are filled with life, you don't want to be around death. I've heard of some Christians who study this type of stuff and it baffles me. There is enough to learn in the light...why go to the dark???

I absolutely stay as far away from it as I can. I don't need to make myself a target for any more issues than necessary. I have enough battles on my plate.

i know exactly what you mean....i can get into enough trouble without looking for
new ways....

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Post by Mia Sherwood on Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:29 am

Dove-Solutions wrote:There is so much on this subject. You guys have done an awesome job of explaining it. ya know we don't have all the answers but we do know this....God is the answer. He sent Jesus as the answer. When Jesus was on the cross and the first drop of blood fell the battle was won. We are covered by the blood of the lamb. Stand on that.....Nothing can cross the blood line. Ask Jesus to paint the blood of Jesus over you each day....before you get out of bed and when you lay down to sleep. Plead the blood over your comings and goings, your family, yourself, your finances, your property, your home, your friends, your vehicles and all motes of transportation, your finances, your pets and animals and even your dreams. You know it is so amazing that when you trust him with your whole life that he will be there bringing the calm to to all situations. The thing is it will seem so calm to you that you won't realize how calm you are until after the situation. When the tornado hit out apartment building a few years ago it was as though I were watching it all happen and everything just got done. I knew it was God but it was the most calm I had ever been in my life. Don't forget that we are joint heirs with Jesus so we have what he has. We have his blood in our veins and nothing can cross the blood line of Jesus because he has won the battle. Remember that the attack is only to divert our attention......but if we stand on the victory......the enemy has no power. That why it says in the word that if we stand strong against the enemy he will flee.....because he has not power because he is a big fat looser. Oh here I go rambling again. I am not saying anything different than you guys, just reiterating it I guess.

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Post by Mia Sherwood on Tue Sep 28, 2010 6:30 am

randomhit10 wrote:
Mia Sherwood wrote:
Cholette wrote:Who, in their right mind, is interested in the dead? I just don't get it. When you are filled with life, you don't want to be around death. I've heard of some Christians who study this type of stuff and it baffles me. There is enough to learn in the light...why go to the dark???

I absolutely stay as far away from it as I can. I don't need to make myself a target for any more issues than necessary. I have enough battles on my plate.

i know exactly what you mean....i can get into enough trouble without looking for
new ways....

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Post by Dove-Solutions on Wed Sep 29, 2010 4:37 am

Ahhhhh thanks. :)


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Post by nubava on Sun Oct 03, 2010 3:47 pm

I have a question here - are familiar spirits the same as seducing spirits?


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Post by Mia Sherwood on Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:08 pm

No.

familiar spirit, Hebrew word: 'owb

A soothsayer who evokes the dead by the power of incantations and magical songs, in order to give answers to the future or doubtful things; Specially, it denotes a python or a soothsaying demon of which these men were believed to be possessed. OLev. 20:27 A MAN OR WOMAN WHEN A PYTHON IS IN THEM. 1 SAM 28:8 divine to me by the familiar spirit whence such a sorceress is called "a woman in whom is a so0thsaying demon". Gesenius's Lexicon


seducing spirit, Greek word: plš'-nos


1) wandering, roving

2) misleading, leading into error

a) a vagabond, "tramp", imposter

b) corrupter, deceiver


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Post by nubava on Sun Oct 03, 2010 4:42 pm

Oh thanks Mia, this is a wonderful explanation, I just thought I have read somewhere that they were the same but now I see that they are not.

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Post by hind'sfeet on Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:06 pm

Thank you all for posting more on this, esp. the parts about tv!!
I've been wondering for a while if tv is as real as real life when it comes to the demonic, even if they are just acting or doing real stuff...

My son and I watched a movie tonight that I felt that we shouldn't be watching... I feel that God has been putting tv on my heart lately, the stuff I like watching... I had questions on my heart and He answered them through ya'll.

Thank you friends!!! Thank you Father!!!

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Post by hind'sfeet on Sat Oct 09, 2010 9:09 pm

Oh, by the way, if anyone has a problem with their unsaved spouse renting horror movies, like I do... I discovered that God is faithful in answering your prayer when you pray that they don't rent an evil movie, when you know they are going out to rent a movie... When I haven't prayed, he always came home with some kind of evil movie, never failed.

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Post by Delightful soul on Thu Oct 28, 2010 5:02 am

I haven't read every comment here, but wasn't the spirit Paul rebuked in the woman who was complimenting Him a familiar spirit? I have heard it was a divination spirit but thing is it was claiming to have discernment that Paul was a man of power....and yet He rebuked her for her nice words? I have always found that once set free of a demonic spirit that I can see the familiar spirit in someone - the spirit is familiar to me in that I have once had it. But more than this I think it is referring to how satan is a counterfieter and replicates every spirit of God with His own.

Sorry I have no scriptures here, just wanted to share here.

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Re: what are familiar spirits and generational curses?

Post by Aemilk on Sun Feb 12, 2012 6:35 pm


I know this was posted years ago but I really had to apply to this. Please note this revelation is no in any way intended for us to live in fear because Christ lives in us and we have the 'mind of Christ' :) 1 Corinthians 2:16. And another note before I go into explanation this is in no way to make anyone PARANOID about this discussion, God is everything and He is ALL in ALL!! We are victorious because of HIM. Thank you Jesus


Okay so reading over the past post this is my response and I wish I had responded two years ago but I only joined the forum last year

I believe in generational cruses. Even though the bible does not say generational cruses specifically it does talk about them. I ask ed the Holy Spirit to give me revelation in the scriptures and this is whose name popped up , King Solomon. I am sure there is more.

When he was King reigining after his father's death-King David a Man after God's owns HEART, he gave Solomon specific instructions for him to be successful: All scriptures from AMP bible

1 Kings 2:3 Keep the charge of the Lord your God, walk in His ways, keep HIs statues, His commandments, His precepts and His testimonies as it is written in the Law of Moses, that you may do wisely and prosper in all that you do and wherever you turn.

So Solomon did until he married many foreign women which was a no, no to God because of the women's background. This is a long one

1 King 11 vs a 1-11

But King Solomon loved many foreign women-the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammorrites, Edomites, Sidonians, and Hittites.

( remember these ites whom the children of Israel fought to get to the promise land Canaan)


vs 2 They were of the very nations of whom the Lord said to the Israelites, YOu shall not mingle with, neither shall they mingle with you, for surely they will turn away your HEARTS after their gods. Yet Solomon clung to these in love
vs 3 He had 700 wives, princesses, and 300 concubines, and his wives turned away his heart from God.
Vs 4. For when Solomon was old his wives turned away his heart after other gods, and his heart after other gods, and his heart was not perfect with the Lord his God as was the heart of David his father.
Vs 5 For Solomon went after Ashtoreth the goddess of the Sidonians, and after Milcom the abominable idol of the Ammonites .
Vs 6 Solomon, did evil in the sight of the Lord, and went not fully after the Lord as David his father did.
Vs 7 Then Solomon built a high place for Chemosh the abominable idol of Moab, on the hill opposite Jerusalem and for Molech the abominable idol of the Ammonites.
Vs 8 And h did so for all of his foreign wives, who burned incense and sacrificed to their gods
Vs 9 And the Lord was angry with Solomon because his heart heart was turned from the Lord, the God of Israel, Who had appeared to him twice,
Vs 10 And had commanded him concerning this thing, that he should not go after other gods, but he did not do what the Lord commanded.
Vs 11 Therefore the Lord said to Solomon, Because you are doing this and have not kept My covenant and My statues, which I have commanded you, I will surely rend the kingdom from you and will give it to your servant!
This is where the generational curses came in vs 12 However, in your days I will not do it for David your fatherís sake. But I will rend it out of the hand of your son!


1) Because all power and might is in Godís right hand (Psalms 89:13 and more scriptures referring to Power and might in His right hand) He is the One who can either allow the enemy to stir up trouble with us, but this is some of the time not ALL of the time, remember Job- whether we know what our ancestors did anything or not.And people who have cast out spirits the enemy flees at the Name of Jesus during deliverance sessions.

However, because God Is a loving God and Loves us oh so ever much, he will lead us and guide us to the TRUTH and it is up to us to change, confession etc for generational curses etc even the ones we didnít commit and Jesus is the Healer and Deliver the Name above All names who will make us WHOLE!!!! PRAISE the LORD!!!!
Thatís why in school I remember we would have a family tree, dating back who are grandfather, grandmother mother etc is, even though we donít know all that happened in the past etc.

Now I am not saying go back to all your family members ask them what they did etc, some of them may have passed away, but do ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to you anything that is in your life that is preventing you from entering into Godís Perfect Will for your Life, and that starts by having a personal relationship with Him worshipping Him staying in His Word , His Truth, and in Prayer.

2) How do the gods that Solomon was worshipping refer to us today?? Is there anything in our life, my life included, that I put first before god, tv, celebrities etc.

Please note this is my personal revelation and is no way to offend or hurt others. God is ALL in ALL a God of balance. I am learning to love and worship Christ more and more!!!

God bless you with love

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