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Post by awesomegod16 on Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:35 pm

what are spirit guides? what is a leviathan?

do any demons come out of a person when they are become a christian?

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Re: question about spirits

Post by Dove-Solutions on Sun Sep 13, 2009 12:51 pm

Blossom,

The Christian interpretation of Leviathan is often considered to be a demon or natural monster
associated with Satan or the Devil. Spirit Guides are mediums or people who speak to the dead.
I pray this is of help.

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Re: question about spirits

Post by awesomegod16 on Sun Sep 13, 2009 1:11 pm

it helps. does it take a lot for it to get out of someone, if that person is a christian? if a person becomes a christian will it just leave or does the person get delivered? can spirit guides be in people who are christians? are dissociated parts or alters demons or fragmented parts of traumatized victims? i mean people who have DID?

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Re: question about spirits

Post by Dove-Solutions on Sun Sep 13, 2009 8:45 pm

Blossom,

The answer to the question.....Can a christian have these spirits. Yes they can. They can be generational curses or they can be things that came on them through open doors from current influences in their lives. This person needs deliverance.

I am just really getting a little bit of knowledge on MPD/SRA/DID. People get this through traumatic situations in an early age of life. Usually someone that is abused....physically or sexually, usually that is under 6 years old. This usually happens when the person cannot deal with the pain of the trauma. The alter comes to protect the person or to hide the pain.....kinda like putting it in a suitcase and blocking it from harming the person. They usually have their own name and personality. They are not demons from what I understand. This requires deliverance ministry for inner healing by a person with some experience in the Lord and in this type of ministry.

I pray this is of help to you.

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Re: question about spirits

Post by awesomegod16 on Mon Sep 14, 2009 4:48 pm

Thank you Dove,
I am currently being ministered to by a deliverance minister howbeit it's over the phone. He does live in the same state just not near me. I asked about spirits because one of the names that came up was this leviathan. and also about spirit guides that also came up. This individual is also helping me with DID stuff.

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Post by Dove-Solutions on Mon Sep 14, 2009 9:30 pm

Yep the Leviathan spirit blocks bible study and the mind and is a prideful spirit. I am going through ministry for MPD so I understand. Hang in girl, God has your back. Trust Him to do the work in you. The spirit guides came up because the are door openers to allow satans demons in to torment you. You will need to do a door closing prayer, which I am sure he has already done with you. I will keep you in prayer blossom.

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Re: question about spirits

Post by awesomegod16 on Tue Sep 15, 2009 5:30 am

I am appreciative of any prayers as I do not talk to him every day so what you are talking about I'm not sure he did yet but I did sense I was getting sick but it only lasted for a second. He said that was one of the clues to demons exiting but it didnt fully happen.

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Post by Dove-Solutions on Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:14 am

Just hang in there blossom. It will happen in Jesus name. Sometimes demons leave by couphing, burping, sneezing, deep exhale, some by getting sick. It just depends. There are many ways but just trust God and don't expect any manefistation.....just let the Lord do his work.

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Post by Dove-Solutions on Tue Sep 15, 2009 6:15 am

I will be happy to pray for you Blossom. Anytime.

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Post by awesomegod16 on Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:31 am

how does a person get witchcraft in their life? do they committ some sin and its there? is it always a result of some abuse they dont know about? because if this is working in a person's life and they dont know if unless someone prays for them and that other person mentions it, then what is to be done? does it come in through sins of ancestors?


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Post by Dove-Solutions on Sat Sep 19, 2009 3:11 pm

Witchcraft like any other spirit will come in when there is a crack in the wall so to speak. Either through a generational curse or through a time in our life before we knew the Lord or maybe through an unconfessed sin since salvation. I would confess all generational sins and all sins I may have commited and dont forget to forgive your forefathers and yourself for any thing you or they may have done. Let your minister know that is helping you what your concerns are and maybe they can give you additional insight. I pray this helps.

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Re: question about spirits

Post by awesomegod16 on Sun Sep 20, 2009 7:43 pm

can a demon overpower the will of man? do demons deceive man into giving him his will by sinning?

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Re: question about spirits

Post by dreamster on Sun Sep 20, 2009 8:57 pm

i dont think so,,,but they do drive. an compel,, u guess if tha person has totally surrendered ther will 2 them ,,but the person still has free choice,, wen a person chooses jesus tha demons lose alotta ground on a person,, hope this makes sense,, D


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Re: question about spirits

Post by Dove-Solutions on Mon Sep 21, 2009 4:15 am

Dreamster you are right on there. Man has free choice. Even when he makes a mistake and lets that into their life they still can choose to change it.

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Re: question about spirits

Post by awesomegod16 on Sun Sep 27, 2009 4:31 pm

can demons come and go in a person? if they can, is it possible for it to happen to a believer? how does a person's spirit get taken over by a spirit, evil spirits if that person doesnt want it? could they be unaware of it? can a child be opened up to that also through abuse?
i dont have any deliverance person anymore, they quit so i am doing some of my own prayers, like self deliverance. and its supposed to be okay to do that since i have jesus. so i am just wanting to ask questions so i can learn on my own.

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Post by dreamster on Sun Sep 27, 2009 6:17 pm

um demons want a home,,an a oppertunity 2 do there thing,, i dont kno about coming an goin,,they usualy stay,, um the flesh and carnel nature opens doors of possability 4 entry,,if one prolongs habits,,um kids r definatrly vulnerable,,thru trauma, sex attacks, abuse,etc,,, um u kan do self deliverance,,u an tha holy spirit,,anointed musik drives demons away ,wiv repeantance,confession,,praise an worship,, an speaking tha word of god out,, jesus came 2 destroy tha works of tha enemy,, D,,,hope this helps sweety,,happy

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Re: question about spirits

Post by Dove-Solutions on Mon Sep 28, 2009 3:59 am

Blossom,

In response to your questions. Yes they can transfer from one person to another. Most though will find a home....so to speak like Dreamster said. Christians cannot be demon possessed but can have spirits in them. They cannot possess us because the Holy Spirit possess us and will not share space with the enemy. However they can torment a persons body and mind and that is how Christians are affected by the enemy.

I will send you a pm in a few minutes with some additional information.

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Post by Dove-Solutions on Mon Sep 28, 2009 4:08 am

Also one other note. Once a door is open the enemy can transfer back and forth. Especially in cases of trauma or abuse. They move between the person receiving the trauma or abuse to the spirit in the person inflicting trauma or abuse. This is called a door. The enemy will continue to use that same door until we close that door. It is called a door closing prayer. Keep in mind there may be many doors that are open. Generational curses (as many as 14 generations back), trauma, witchcraft, Drugs, Hypnosis, Idolatry, Rebellion and disobedience, curses, ungodly soul ties, unforgiveness, unrepented sin, not being born again, honoring your father and mother, works of the flesh and pride. But I want you to remember this scripture everytime the enemy would try to intimidate you about this.

Luke 10:19

"Behold, I give you the authority to trample on serpents and scorpions and over ALL the power of the enemy and nothing will by any means harm you."

Like I said I will pm you.

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Post by awesomegod16 on Mon Sep 28, 2009 5:34 am

Okay then, I understand what is going on. There is a lot of abuse in my background, but I won't go into it but God keeps bringing things and people to my mind but some I have just a small memory of.
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Post by dreamster on Mon Sep 28, 2009 12:55 pm

ugh sweety it maybe kinda grueling,,but its a good thang,,god in baddies out,, D.,...god is at wrk in u ,,his wondas 2 perform,, ,,tha NI"D" version,,


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Re: question about spirits

Post by hopefullynotlost4evr on Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:24 am


Hi, i think someone could actually do a case study on me about what your discussing. I have pretty much all that you talked about from early childhood trauma from birth onwards (blue baby with a blood filter trauma experience) not to mention childhood bullying to extreme pysc. damage. and it gets worse from there believe it or not.

After being in a church mostly focusing on spiritual gifts for years, not the word of God. I eventually backslid and made the HUGE mistake of messing with tarot cards. From what i read about familiar spirits in a post here earlier about a christian team *ghost hunting* erm WOW! all i wanted to do was scream "STAY AWAY FROM THINGS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND" and focus on the first 2 commandments and live them out to please the Lord forvever.
That being said, If one goes messing with things like demonic spirits by accident or otherwise that aren't fully prepared and steeped in the word of God and are FOR SURE called to that ministry you can be set up for things that can end up messing with you... that there are no words for except in the end that can only be described as TORMENT! <----- even that word can lose meaning in it.

I've seen a couple of posts as well saying something like don't give too much credit to the devil BUT i'd add to that, DO NOT take him for a fool. Jesus did not describe him as the mighty prince of the air for something to do. *Fear the devil* NO! Beware of him! YES!!! <----- !!!! Scripture plainly says that!

This really applies the most to new christians who are not up to par yet with ALL the word of God before delving into the spiritual realm, again by accident or otherwise. In my case i may have even lost my salvation and i cannot stress the confusion that the enemy is capable of, he has power and a lot of it in this world so be AWARE! always and like scripture says *meditate on the word night and day*



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Re: question about spirits

Post by hopefullynotlost4evr on Sun Dec 16, 2012 9:36 am

awesomegod16 wrote:Okay then, I understand what is going on. There is a lot of abuse in my background, but I won't go into it but God keeps bringing things and people to my mind but some I have just a small memory of.
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Blossom, i'm not sure what the problem is but from what i have read about what Dove said, i would take her advice if i were you.

From what i have experienced, they can even affect your dreams and turn them into terrormares and so please get help however you can but pray first and ask God to help you discern if it's the right person/ministry to be involved with.

I think one thing holds a lot of weight either way, FORGIVENESS to people who have hurt us, knowingly or not.

In my early yrs i cried out to God constantly for forgiveness and i was encouraged to do so which was great BUT there wasn't a lot of teaching on working on how to forgive others when they deeply wounded us. It's not easy by any means but worth it!!!


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