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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:33 am

what I wanted to say is that this woman came over wednesday with another one of judy's friends to celebrate judy's birthday. i didnt know that she would be coming over, there was a chance that i would have seen her while she is here. i dont even know if this woman knows what is actually going on in her own heart. she says she is a christian so I dont know. I do know that I felt uncomfortable around her still even though I had been praying about this and wanting freedom from this.
i kind of understand what you said Sandra, that's why I said perhaps this woman doesnt even realize the affect she is having on me ( I am sure the evil spirits know). I don't like feeling like I do. I still had a hard time looking at her although it was not like it was before. Like I said I don't even know if this woman realizes what is going on in her life at all.

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Post by str82heart on Mon Jul 06, 2009 1:24 pm

Hi Blossom!

Thank you for being honest and sharing! thumbs I agree that what you are dealing with is rooted in the supernatural and does affect your emotions. I also wonder if you are starving to be loved. I am sending you a website that may be of encouragement to you. Please know that you are not alone in this battle and that you CAN and WILL overcome, Amen?

Please do continue to keep us posted as we love you unconditionally. :bighug:

http://www.exodus-international.org/

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Mon Jul 06, 2009 2:23 pm

i am familiar with exodus international as they are on my bookmark. thanks for the encouragement/

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by Christa on Wed Jul 08, 2009 10:22 pm

Blossom, Joyce Meyer is a rad woman, get her cd's and read her books.

I'll tell you something a little about me....that same piece of crap thing (homosexual whatever in hell it is) has been a constant in my spiritual warfare. My dad is verbally abusive towards me (still to this day), never physically abusive. His dad was verbally and physically abusive towards him. These spirits will pass down the bloodlines if they're not stopped. I have a daughter that I pray for all of the time that she will not have this spirit attack her. Pornography, occult...I've been there and done that too.

Blossom, sometimes, this thing will get me in my dreams as I'm sleeping. It'll stick a girl in my dreams and the next thing you know, it's on. It has even brought people to me....I've lost many friends because I've actually had to say "no" to their advances, or I've abandoned the friendship because I knew they were under the influence of that spirit.

It's embarassing and it's almost useless going to a regular counselor about it because they'll tell you to give in to your desires because you were born gay, etc.

This is what I suggest (and I'm going to do this for myself, because actually, your story made me realize that this is a bigger issue in me than I recognized before): There are many churches that offer "healing rooms," I've been to them before for other things. They cast off all sorts of hellish things that attack people. A homosexual spirit is no exception. I know that some of the Vineyard churches have them. If you don't have a healing room in your area, call up some churches and ask if they cast out spirits. If they say, "no" or if they give you an answer that shows you they're shaky on the subject, then go to the next. Pentacostal churches may be a source.

Immediate suggestion: Get a bunch of Christian CD's, whatever kind you like and inundate your brain with God and His Word. Everytime you get a thought, "Resist the devil and he must flee," turn on one of those CD's and go do the dishes, sweep the floor, get on the treadmill.Or go for a walk with an ipod full of Christian music or Christian message downloads (Joel Osteen has free ones, most TV preachers do).

I had to realize that my Heavenly Father is the perfect father figure for me. Jesus is our husband, our lover, our savior, our comforter, our redeemer, our parent, and a friend that sticks close than a brother. He is our everything. For many years I thought God was a tyrant because my earthly father is. God is so the opposite. "It His KINDNESS, (not his mighty might) that brings us to repentance." He is kind, He's our dad, He's the King of Kings, and we are the King's kids. Remind that nasty spirit of that every time he enters. Like True Flight said in the above response, "He stands in the gap"...so there is no gap anymore.

I know you're going to get rid of this thing because everyone on this page is binding the devil on your behalf right now. I plead the blood of Jesus over you right now. I ask Jesus that the anointing will fall so heavily on you right at this moment that you will feel God's saturating love and joy come upon you like a warm fuzzy blanket and sink deep within your soul like an ointment from the heavens healing and mending you. You are blessed and not cursed. The enemy has no place in your life because you're a child of the Most High God. You are a blessed child of the King, you're our sister in Christ, and you have a mighty purpose that only you can fulfill for the Lord.

He says, "If you love me, you will feed my sheep." He loves his sheep, He is the Good Shephard...He laid down His life for His sheep. You're going to help someone, maybe many people, someday with this exact same thing. It may be your calling. Find other people online who have been delivered from this. Get prepared, because God wants to help a lot of people through you. You are so precious. Thank you so much for sharing with us about your struggle. God bless you and protect you sister, we love you and appreciate you!

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by Heleadsme on Sun Jul 12, 2009 12:16 am

Hello Blossom,
I had taken some training on deliverance...and one thing one of the teachers had said was...there are no homosexual spirits...people get the opposite gendered spirits in them and think they are then homosexual.
Like...a woman can have a male spirit sort of thing.
It was funny because my friend I went there with...told me she knew she had picked up a male spirit because she found herself being attracted to a woman at her job.
I am wondering if the Lord is teaching you about these types of things in the season your in.
Just now that it's not you!!! But observe what is going on and do take it all to the Lord in prayer...tell him you don't want this and to take it from you! Tell him you are sorry if you have opened the doors to this yourself somehow unknowingly...
Perhaps the Lord plans to use you to minister to others who have the same types of things going on once your set free from it.
Until then, I would stay away from that woman and work not to give place to it which it seems you are already doing.
I think you are doing the right thing by being vulnerable and transparent in your sharing. Sometimes the devil gets more ground if things are kept hidden.
Hope this helps somehow...

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by Dove-Solutions on Sun Jul 12, 2009 3:54 am

I just want to make sure you understand that there are many spirits that are involved here. They seem similar but
have different attack methods and functions.

INCUBI - Demonic sexual attacks on females; may be caused by sexual
sins, witchcraft spells, curses of lust, inherited curses, can attack children

SUCCUBI - demonic sexual attacks on males, may be caused by the same as Incubi above

These two spirits above usually attack a person and pin them down while they sleep.

HOMOSEXUAL: This usually occurs after a traumatic experience as a child such as rape, abuse and/or molestation.

Amnon - The Spirit of Lust.
Jezebel - The Spirit of Seduction and Control
Mammon - The Spirit of Addiction to Wealth
Pharisees - The Spirit of Religiosity
World - The Spirit of Slavery and Fear

(these spirits work in conjunction with one another and all function under the strongman spirit of Homosexuality)

These spirits above are spirits of the flesh and happen at any time. The above situations in a persons life can be the door opener for these spirits. Another spirit that will attach itself here is a self defense mechanism spirit which is how the child will defend itself. They will tell the child it cannot be hurt anymore but will really be a lie program deceiving the child into thinking they are protecting them.

I pray this is of some help.

Love in Jesus,

Connie





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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by dreamster on Mon Jul 13, 2009 2:24 am

Scratch Chin hmmm interesting connie,,,the addiktion 2 wealth,,,ihada frend who is that way,,driven,,a slave 2 work.. bandaid awful 2 see,,,


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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by HisLightbeam on Mon Jul 13, 2009 10:34 am

Oh, blossom, my heart goes out to you. My foster daughter had the same things occur with her. Days go by that I pray for her. And let me tell you something. God loves us all. We are all God's people. The next level would be to become a child of the Lord, which you have done. It does not mean that you will not struggle. Until now the kingdom of heaven suffers violence, and the violent take it by force. We are in a fight for our lives everyday. It never gets easy. We are soldiers in the army of the Lord. Except that we fight with the word of God. You were formerly one thing, but now you are a new creature. The enemy is trying to appeal to your flesh, because your spirit is now a different spirit. He doesn't care if you succumb to temptation - except to have it hurt your witness - but he wants you to fall under condemnation so that you feel that you are not under God's loving protection.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Tue Jul 14, 2009 6:37 am

thank you for all of your responses
when i was in college i had a friend who was a homosexual but it didnt bother me. i was just newly saved and was busy witnessing to her. some how or some time, this thing began to like hound me or if it was a spirit, come after me because there were women in the dorms that were acting out and i would see them, perhaps it caused me to want that lifestyle. but i know for a fact that two sisters in my family are that way also. i was thinking more of like Connie said' some generational curses', because I have been told I have a curse on me from some way back generations, and it was 1. so i no one in our line would accept christ 2. on the finances, and i cant remember the third one. but one thing i do know, there is occult stuff in my ancestry that i got interested in as teen and dabbled and also was abused. i dont know if being abused by a woman makes that spirit come on a person? anyway i am recuperating from surgery now, God has been extremely faithful to me in my progress and healing of my body. I just wanted to thank him

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by Heleadsme on Tue Jul 14, 2009 9:29 am

Blossom,
I don't know everything but have had some experiences with things the Lord taught me...

I would say "YES"...a spirit can transfer through being abused.

I am glad the Lord is unraveling all of this for you and teaching you in the process...

Father I pray for complete healing now and quick recovery from this surgery...in Jesus name I pray, amen!

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by Jodi on Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:08 pm

I'm glad you trusted us enough to talk openly. God does love you and so do we as His people. I have heard a little bit about spirits which occultic people use to draw people to them. Is it possible that the woman who seems to pull your attention to her is using an evil spirit to attract/ lure you? I don't know much about this, but I think that if I mention it maybe someone else who has more information about it might be able to teach you how to defend yourself against it. Praying for God to reveal such a spirit so you recognise it might be a place to start. Ask the Holy Spirit to teach you how to reject such a spirit in Jesus' name. I hope this helps.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Tue Aug 04, 2009 3:32 pm

thank you Jodi for responding to this post. its been here for a long time now. i dont know as i have gotten any more insight into it but what you said does make sense about the spirit thing. i do know that since i have been home recuping she has sent me a card and expresses a wish to see me. maybe its just me and not her at all. she is a christian so maybe all of this is just my fault and stems from me instead of her. then i am the one throwing out signals and she has a pure heart in all of this. that could be it.
i guess its easier to believe.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by newleaf on Tue Aug 04, 2009 9:16 pm

No struggle with any sin is worse than any other. We are not here to judge each other only encourage and pray for each other.May God lead and bless you.
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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by dreamster on Wed Aug 05, 2009 1:09 am

um blossom is it possable 2 ask this woman if she feels something 4 u,,then u can sort it out,,,then u will kno either way,,then u kood say 2 her wat u r experianceing,,justa thought,, flower D


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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Wed Aug 05, 2009 7:05 am

dreamster,
I think i will do that. i could write her and ask her some questions. thanks for the input.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Mon Aug 31, 2009 7:24 pm

just an update on this situation... i didnt contact that lady as i thought it would not be in my best interest nor hers even if she felt like that, there was nothing i would do about it.
i think i kind of understand what someone wrote about spirits being involved. i ve since been praying that the Lord would actually become the Lord of my life. He has been helping me a little at a time. I have not had deliverance nor have I went to counseling. I will leave that up to the Lord if that's what he wants. But I'm like totally throwing myself on his mercy at this point.
And I am just praying for godly wisdom and understanding.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by Dove-Solutions on Mon Aug 31, 2009 10:25 pm

Hey Blossom,

Yes spirits can transfer from abuse.

Love in Jesus,

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:29 am

So, if a person becomes a christ follower, and they were abused as a child, and there are spirits, then are those spirits still in the person? what about people who are apart of cults and covens, and you grow up in one. and then, they purposely abuse you so they can open you up to spirits? then if you want to follow christ, are those spirits still there? and what control or neither do they have on a person's life? as far as steering them in a certain way or direction and away from God? are the spirits that transfer through abuse, is that just a result of the abuse, spirits transferring? and what about fragmented parts of one's souls?


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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by Cholette on Tue Sep 01, 2009 8:40 am

i ve since been praying that the Lord would actually become the Lord of my life. He has been helping me a little at a time.

Blossom, I'm so proud of YOU!!! huggins


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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by Guest on Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:39 am

if she came to the Lord..she cleaned her house meaning her spiritual house her body..the Demons dwelling in there can not cohabite with the spirit of God.
They leave and wonder for some time..and because of this they decide to gather others spirits so they can occupy that house again.
now..how these is manifested with a temptation..remember in her mind there is a record still of that Sin..that is the Door that remains open and need to be close.
how Cast down all the toughts that don't agree with the word of God..
Simple the devil uses images and entertain you with them and inmediatly he make the suggestion..to rebel or sin..and bring that record that still attach with feelings..becuse of our sinful nature..
that is why fasting is so neccesaraly these days..
Ii is so easy to be entangle in bondage but so hard to comeout..the road of recovery is not an easy one..
it will have a desert and many trials..
like the israelites when they left Egypt.
if you endure that you will be victory if not the Poster state of the person will be worst than the first one.
All is an illusion ...if you can put all your mind focus in to recognize the things that alter your senses and put you in an excited condition..if you can stand..Stand if not Flee..like Jesus said..rush to his arms and you will be safe..
He is using the past ..to keep her captive.
Fast and pray but do not do tis by yourself..
These demon incubus is very crafty..and like a cat never shows himself in the open..it blends himself well.
Take her to church so prayers warriors can deliver her.
Also tell her every morning to do communion...just get bread and grape juice or some kosher wine
and do what Jesus told us to do in his memory..
She needs to equipped herself well after a demon of that hierarchy has been cast out..
They suffer ..and they are many..

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Tue Sep 01, 2009 10:30 am

mbstudent,
are you talking about me? cause i ask these questions about some situations i am going through about all this stuff. its too difficult to understand but tormenting to experience. and no i dont have any one at all at church who is willing to help me. i ve been there done that. all have turned away from me, and i mean ALL. the only ones who will help me are the ones who are telling me stuff about ritualistic abuse and all that, that frankly i do not want to hear.
when i try to go towards the Lord, it seems all this stuff always stands in the way. i guess i will have to go it alone. thank you for your words.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by Guest on Tue Sep 01, 2009 11:03 am

No sister God Forbid..
I just wanted to give you the inside how the enemy operates
so to prevent you in engaging in a warfare with devastating consequences for you.
I understand your point ..I did not mean to offend you
There is nothing wrong..if they are christians and leave you alone..it is because love does not dwell in them..
Only a broken hearted person will really understand the meaning of Mercy.
Take Courage Jesus will never give up on your friend.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:24 pm

no mbstudent,
its not you that i say that about. what you said to me was great. its other people, the ones who wont help me because they just dont want to for some reason, maybe they are afraid.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by Jadams on Tue Sep 01, 2009 12:28 pm

Are you speaking of people here? I've read this forum and you have received some great help here.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Tue Sep 01, 2009 2:43 pm

no not here on this forum i m speaking about where i live. i cant be speaking about people here because they have been helpful. thats why i clarified what i said to mbstudent. i wasnt coming down on what he said it just made me think of another situation.

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