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Post by awesomegod16 on Sun Jun 07, 2009 6:48 pm

I have a question. It is a serious question. A friend of mine has always struggled with homosexuality. And she is a christian but has decided to go full into the Lord and committ her life to him and turn her back on that lifestyle. She wasn't totally apart of that lifestyle socially but still struggled with it. And some time ago, I would say about two years ago, she came in contact with another woman through another friend of hers. And this person didnt even live in the same state but she felt this connection with this woman. At first, she was thinking it was something of the Lord because they seem to hit it off really well and she liked this person. But afterwards it seemed to be somewhat of a sexual attraction. As she was with other people, she had to hide what she was feeling.
But again, since this other woman only came into town like once or twice a year, and it wasnt like she was seeing her, only if she got invited to this other person's home would she see this same woman. My friend kind of put it out of her mind.
Then again, my friend was invited to an outing where this same woman was there. And my friend cant even look this woman in the eye. She feels this strong bondage or something connected with this woman. And its bothering her. She wants to be free of this whatever it is. And I dont know how to help except to pray except it doesnt seem to work. The problem is, not that something will happen between them ( there is absolutely no way it ever will), but my friend wants to be set free from whatever is causing this problem.
My friend says it feels as if she is invaded whenever she is around this person, like her defenses have been stripped, like something inside is going on. Does anyone have any idea what is going on?

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by dreamster on Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:24 pm

um definately a spiritual problem,,i wood say the outta twn woman has a spirit that is active in connecting wiv possable partners,,ive heard of that kinda thang happening ina group of ppl,,the same spirits atract,,,there isa soul tie of some kind,,pray 2 bind the strong man,, :clap: thumbs flower D hope this helps,,,


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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Sun Jun 07, 2009 7:29 pm

so its a soul tie? same spirits as in two people having the same problem = spirit? is that what you are saying. like my friend and this other person has the same problem? would this happen if this person wasnt a christian? is it like someone saying like opposites attract or in this case spirits attract? not understanding this too much

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by butterfly on Sun Jun 07, 2009 11:29 pm

Hi Blossom. One of the reasons why some people struggle with homosexuality has to do with them not getting the adequate love and acceptance that they needed from both of their parents. For e.g if a girl did not receive adequate love and attention from her mom she might try to find that love and attention from another female. If a guy did not receive adequate love and attention from his dad he might try to find that love and attention from another male.


Three steps to help:

1. Having Christians interceding on your behalf.
2. Discovering the psychological, emotional and spiritual root of the problem and with God's help overcoming it.
3. Getting delivered from demonic spirits


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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:41 am

Thank you Butterfly for your words and also Dreamster.My friend has had this struggle for most of her life. It's really true that even when you become a christian you dont immediately have freedom but you still struggle. My friend had previously gone to her pastor and his wife and asked for help but I dont think they really know what to do with her.
and its a very long story. i know she tried counseling before but it was a dead end plus finding a christian counselor, shes been down that road before also. i think its just her and God now.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by butterfly on Mon Jun 08, 2009 4:50 am

You are welcome Blossom.

Molestation, the occult and pornography are also some of the reasons why persons may struggle with homosexuality.


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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:01 am

I wrote something in the thread on dreams about that a little about being molested. but yes to the abuse, the occult her, and yes to all three. thats a long story about her background. will write more later

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Mon Jun 08, 2009 5:30 am

background is: grew up in foster family. was victim of abuse by both sexes. found out info about birth family. interesting thing is when she was prayed for the issue of witchcraft came up. when she was a teen she had an interest in the occult. its such a long story.
i wonder if this other woman that she has the problem with, has an contact with the occult? that might explain my friends problem. its hard to try to explain all of it from my friends point of view.
MF= my friends parents: they were older couple, had their own biological kids. MF was one of several kids coming and going out of home. Her foster dad was pretty strict. Her mom was strict too but not much affection I think.
She wasnt close to her mom but she felt that she had to take care of her mom, see to it that she was safe.

Its hard to explain seeing that things have gotten to the point where I guess she is having to deal with this alone. I could talk to her about it but its an issue that has been there for a while.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by True Flight on Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:16 am

I would put money on it, that the other person is or was a homosexual.
What the enemy is doing is whispering in her ear things like, "She is cute" and "I would like to get together with her".
The problem is she is believing the Lie's of the enemy. Instead of rebuking it she is dwelling on the words and the other person and she is making it worse.
It's not her lust but the enemy's attempt to destroy her.

She is not fighting it alone, she has your prayers that do work and she has Jesus who wont forsake her and she has her angles of protection.

Pray with authority, get mad at the enemy. Get real mad at him and tell him to get his hands off your friend.

Dreamster is right to, there are minor spirits that can attach them selves to us without us being aware. They hide very well but the light does expose them.

These demons are chased out by fasting and prayer. I believe praying in tongues is to be used in this type of fasting.

God has been recently giving me the details on this type of fasting and prayer and that is what I have been shown so far.

Fasting one meal a day should do it. I think a 3 day fast if she is up to it.

Once God delivers you, You are delivered.

Keep in mind your best council for her is just to listen. As she releases it as you listen, God will replace it with his Spirit.

I will stand in the gap believing she has the victory.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:35 am

I think I should tell you that in all honesty, the person that is my friend is me. I didnt want to say because I didnt know anyone here and I was afraid of not being accepted here.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:40 am

I didnt mean to mis lead anyone but its very hard to actually not be rejected by even christians about this problem. i am sorry if i have offended anyone.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by butterfly on Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:40 am

You don't have to be afraid of not being accepted here. We all love you and care for you. God loves you so much and cares for you. Don't make anybody tell you otherwise.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by True Flight on Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:50 am

Thats a good start at releasing that, I bet you feel better allready.

I dont think there is anyone going to reject you here. These are very mature in the Lord people, no mater how long they have served God the fruit is evident

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by butterfly on Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:54 am

I am going to recommend a book for you to read. The name of the book is "Beauty for Ashes" by Joyce Meyer. Joyce was sexually abused by her dad and she showed how she was able to overcome that with the help of Jesus Christ and his word.


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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:27 am

thank you butterfly and everyone who has responded.
i really dont know how to thank you
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i have read some books on this subject in the past but have not read Joyce's books.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by butterfly on Mon Jun 08, 2009 8:39 am

When a child is molested he/she becomes fractured mentally, emotionally and spiritually and sometimes it can affect their sexual identity.

Also what should be noted as well that demons can be transferred through sex or molestation. A molester might have a demonic spirit operating in them and their victim also is affected by that same spirit who overtime leads that person to other sexual relationships which makes their situation much worst.

The Occult

In the Old Testament the bible states that the sins of the forefathers fall to the second and third generations. When a person is involved in the occult it affects their future generation if they don't repent and accept Jesus Christ as their personal saviour. Sometimes people deep into the occult have sex with other occultists so therefore demonic spirits get transferred from one person to another because of sex. Or some occultists like some non occultists have sex with various persons and demonic spirits get transferred. When that person involved in the occult dies the demon can be transferred to their children, their grandchildren and perhaps other family members as well.


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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Mon Jun 08, 2009 11:21 am

I sent you a PM about some things you sent to me.

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by dreamster on Mon Jun 08, 2009 7:41 pm

um uve done very well blossom,,and i think ur site name is quite appropriate 4 u..as the lord does his deep work in ur life u will blossom..im sad ur pasta wasnt able 2 help u ,,,a lotta pastas arnt equipped 4 this type of ministry, bandaid um ur on the upward path,,,be patiant wiv urself,,love urself and 4giveurself,,,jesus has paid the price 4 every thing we hav done past ,present an future,, :clap: hes not freakin out even if his body does,, :eek: :eek: ther is more grace than u will ever need ok.swerety,, :clap: thumbs only by grace can we enter,,only by grace can we stand,, thumbs hope this helps a little wer here 4 u '' all 4 one'' lol! flower flower flower D


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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by Dove-Solutions on Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:33 am

Dreamster is so right here. Many pastors are not equipped for this type of ministry. This is something that I struggle with in my church.....I mention demons and these people don't have a clue what I am talking about. I am grateful that my pastor understands the ministry. He supports me doing the ministry but not being involved himself. I do deliverance ministry Monday evenings at an church downtown. It is so rewarding to see people free!

Will keep you in prayer,

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by awesomegod16 on Tue Jun 09, 2009 5:30 am

its okay about them not really wanting to do deliverance or not being able. i just believe God has someone out there or maybe He himself will help me. i dont believe he brought me this far to leave me and abandon me.
i dont know why i believe this now but i do.
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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by Dove-Solutions on Tue Jun 09, 2009 11:13 am

I sent you an email blossom.

Love in Jesus,

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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by dreamster on Tue Jun 09, 2009 1:45 pm

thumbs god cannot abbandon u,, :clap: ur his treasure,,,he will start and complete the work in u ,,,christ in u tha hope of glory,,, :clap: u will make it tru,, flower flower huggins D


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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by Cholette on Tue Jun 09, 2009 2:57 pm

Preach Pastor Dreamsta!!!!!!


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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by dreamster on Tue Jun 09, 2009 4:08 pm

lol! ohh lordy sweety,,if i do that ,,u mite have 2 take up an offering sweety,, :clap: :clap: :crazy: :thankyou: :thankyou: [ cash,cheques,creditcards r welkome].... praiseGod


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Re: I have a question about a serious situation

Post by Guest on Fri Jun 19, 2009 1:55 pm

I haven't read anyone else's response yet because I don't want to be swayed by it before I comment on what came up in my heart. It sounds to me like the woman your friend is having a problem with has a seducing spirit operating in her life and it very well may be geared towards women or even both men and women. Because your friend already has a weakness in this area this spirit likely recognizes that weakness and is attacking your friend through this woman. Obviously your friend is going to have to continue to make good choices. But, she has authority over the spirit that's operating in the life of this other woman and can bind it up and stand against it spiritually without ever needing to be in the woman's presence. I've heard of similar things like this happening with some of my friends. It has been a spiritual battle, but the battle was won and victory was obtained and the "attacks" have stopped. I hope this helps!

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