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Post by owen on Sun Apr 29, 2012 1:30 pm

Leviticus 19:28 (Amplified), "Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print or tattoo any marks upon you: I am the Lord."

I have seen several preachers with tattoos on their arm, wrist, neck etc. And I don't know if they got it before or after being converted to Christianity.

Some Christians say that tattos are acceptable now because we are under the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ?

I would like to have some comments about this. What do you think?

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Re: Is getting tattoo okay?

Post by Deborah on Sun Apr 29, 2012 2:52 pm

This is why I could never get a tattoo:
1. People I've spoken to who have gotten a tattoo say they did it because they felt rebellious. Rebellion is a favorite tool of satan. My hairdresser gets a new tattoo every year (she proudly shows them to me and I try really hard not to be judgmental) and she has told me they are addicting.

2. Worldly people get tattoos and I am to be separated from the world.
I know people take passages such as Leviticus 19 and say, "Well, if I follow everything in this chapter, then I should eat only kosher food, never trim my beard..." Yet the whole reason for these rules in the first place was God wanted His people to act and look differently from pagans.

3. Many employers will not hire someone if he/she has even one tattoo.

4. Tattoos are permanent and just because I like some design now does not mean I'll like it 20 years from now. If I'm married 20 years from now and my body belongs to my husband, what am I going to do if he doesn't like my tattoo?

5. Tattoo removal is painful and expensive. Is getting a tattoo in the first place much less having one removed being a good steward of the money God has lent us?

6. I know people say getting a cross or some other religious symbol tattooed is God-glorifying, but from what I've seen is that it draws attention to self, not God.

That said, I know this is one of those gray areas of scripture and if a person has fought this out in the trenches with the Lord and has peace about getting a tattoo, then great. I know it took me 42 years before I felt at peace about getting my ears pierced for the first time, but that's another subject..... Deborah, on her thinking chair

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Re: Is getting tattoo okay?

Post by TheWhiteShadow on Sun Apr 29, 2012 3:43 pm

I like what Deborah has posted on this.

I'm of the same mind that if you've hashed it out with God and have peace about it, then the issue is between you and God. My own personal conviction is that I was made in His image, by His hands, and he says that I was fearfully and wonderfully made. Do I need to add anything to the finished product - and would it improve upon it?

Again, this is my own personal opinion.
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Re: Is getting tattoo okay?

Post by owen on Sun Apr 29, 2012 4:06 pm

Good points debbie! clapping very practical!!!

Mark, you've left a good question to ponder!

I have a co-worker, and he is a christian and a teacher, (BTW, i work in a school), he got this barb wire tattoo around his upper arm and a huge eagle at his back.

Others would say.... God does not look at our appearance but to our hearts...so it doesnt matter if I am getting tattoos on my body.

Please don't get me wrong, I definitely disagree with tattoos, not even body piercing. It just makes me wonder why Christians are getting into it.

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Re: Is getting tattoo okay?

Post by dreamster on Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:04 pm

laugh hmmm ok analist owin, :reading: um i kno beleavas who hav gotten chritian tatoos nerd ,,an multyple pierceings,,guys im talkin about, oh and gurls 2,, i guess it comes bak 2 personal choice,, they gotta live wiv ther choices,, :shocking: i ask da question is it christian 2 getta boob job,, what or liposuction,, what ,,the list kood go on,, ,,i woodnt get one miself, hiding ,,mi fav scrip 4 these things is let the peace of god be ur umpire, clapping smiley dance

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Re: Is getting tattoo okay?

Post by owen on Sun Apr 29, 2012 6:40 pm

what boob job! liposuction! what Censored

Gen D soldier I just cant imagine christians getting into thses stuffs!
Do ya think this is getting out of the :rules: or maby not biblical :bible: ????????????

:imconfused: Owen, confused!


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Re: Is getting tattoo okay?

Post by dreamster on Sun Apr 29, 2012 10:50 pm

laugh laugh ohh dear, :shocking: um owan duh fear not, hiding ,,if i wer u id follow wat u kno 2 be rite, :bible: an let othas make up ther own minds, idea ,,,,,,,,, sweet dreams 2 gen d ,,at ease, lol!

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Post by dreamster on Sun Apr 29, 2012 11:46 pm

,,or if ur thinkin tatoos perhaps this wood be a grt starting place, u kood get this,,, gen d,,, ,,

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Re: Is getting tattoo okay?

Post by owen on Mon Apr 30, 2012 5:09 pm

:hmm: duh Banned

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Re: Is getting tattoo okay?

Post by Deborah on Mon Apr 30, 2012 9:13 pm

owen wrote:Good points debbie! clapping very practical!!!


Others would say.... God does not look at our appearance but to our hearts...so it doesnt matter if I am getting tattoos on my body.



First of all, thanks for calling me "Debbie!"
Anyway, I've heard this (above) verse referred to often by people who dress like gangsters, get tattoos and other such alarming trends--it says man looks on the outer appearance, but God looks at the heart. Yes, God looks at the heart, true, but MAN looks at the outer appearance. MAN is who we are to witness to and if our outer appearance is alarming, it's really hard to look beyond that.

I know of a man who went to a job interview in a lime green suit. He didn't get the job, but he did get hired by another company and made that company millions of dollars. The person who interviewed him initially said he could not get beyond the lime green suit, no matter how hard he tried. I was watching a documentary of a famous singer not long ago and a line from it keeps haunting me. It says, "people hear what they see." For that job interviewer, a brilliant potential employee was what he lost, but what if eternal salvation was what he lost? What if the person in the lime green suit had been witnessing to him and he had rejected the message because of the packaging of the witnesser?

Yes, God does look at the heart, but man looks at the outward appearance and if that tattoo is part of that outward appearance, it could affect how or even if people hear us.

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Re: Is getting tattoo okay?

Post by owen on Tue May 01, 2012 3:16 pm

Amen! sista Debbie,

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Re: Is getting tattoo okay?

Post by blessed1 on Wed May 02, 2012 6:50 am

When my children have asked about getting tattoos when the grow up, I reminded them that our bodies are a temple for the Holy Spirit. You wouldn't put graffiti on the walls of your church, so why put it on your body? And that's my view on getting tats!

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Re: Is getting tattoo okay?

Post by owen on Wed May 02, 2012 4:28 pm

Good analogy blessed1 thumbs

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Re: Is getting tattoo okay?

Post by lola21st on Thu May 24, 2012 6:23 pm

Ok, I missed this topic while I was away so want to resurrect it for a couple of reasons. Mainly, this topic has been on my mind lately as well...

I've also taken the stand until recently that tattoos aren't something that Christians should partake in citing the same verses as above. A couple of months ago, I ran into the son of a friend. He's in his early 20's and is a Christian. We were at a Panda Express restaurant and he was in line. He was wearing a tank top and I noticed that he had two very prominent tattoos on both shoulders. Admittedly, I started to pass judgement and was about to accuse him of being worldly and a hypocrite ( bandaid , yes I'm dealing with myself over what can be a quick to pass judgement spirit within me...pray for me, y'all!)... BUT then I looked at one of the tattoos and realized that it was a bible opened to Psalm 23. As much as I hate to admit it,*camera lens zooms in for a face shot so that I can whisper that* the tattoo was beautiful. wow The full text was legible and must've taken forever to complete because it was very detailed. I typically hate tattoos because they're often that ugly green black colored ink but this was different. On his other arm was Psalm 91, same style.

In talking to him, I learned that it was a great conversation piece for him and he actually uses it as a witnessing tool. This kind of reminded me of Brian Welch, the former lead singer of the metal band Korn, who quit the band after he got saved, got delivered from his additions and has since done overseas missionary work, has written an autobiography and is recording Christian music. This man is covered from neck to toe with tattoos. I have no idea what any of them symbolize but I suspect they may not have much to do with Jesus since he was already covered with them when he got saved. (But I could be wrong...)

My point is that he is in a position to witness to a segment of society that I can't reach. The irony here is that those very tattoos give him a sort of 'credibility' that I wouldn't have because I look too 'establishment' for this group of people. To me this is potentially a case of using what was meant for evil/carnality and using it for good. If these tattoos have served as a conduit that opens the door for witnessing and saving souls then isn’t God is still glorified? Nothing can keep us from the love of the Lord, not even tattoos. (Romans 8:35-39)

Yet, this still doesn't mean that I support tattoos. My son asked me recently about whether I would prefer him to have a pierced ear(s) or tattoo and I told him neither but he pressed me to make a choice so I told him that if he had to get one of them then I could better live with the tattoo but that shouldn't be considered an endorsement. I reminded him that his body is a temple of the Holy Spirit so he really needed to think through whether or not this was something that he thought the Lord would approve especially based on what he told the Israelites in Leviticus.

From a practical perspective, I told him that he would have to wait until he was self-sufficient to get one - I'm just not that on board with the idea but I recognize that at some point he's going to have to make his own decisions as an adult and I may not be in agreement with some of them. (And provides enough time for me to pray God's wisdom for him and for him to hear from the Lord directly on the topic since he’s only 16.) That being said, I told him that he'd have to use common sense about it and realize that there might be consequences to having one (the employability issue) so he'd need to have it in a discreet place that's not viewable when he's working but can be exposed when he's on his own time. Also that if he were to get one, he'd have to be sure that it was something that he could live with for the rest of his life given that they're largely permanent (removing them is an involved and painful process) and given that our thoughts, interests, beliefs evolve over the course of our lives so whatever he gets must be something that is such a core part of him that it's not likely to change, i.e., no references to girlfriends, no trendy designs/quotes/etc. Can’t remember the actress but someone recently had one removed and she really regretted having one done in the first place so I reminded him of her situation. Ironically, he said that if he were to do it, he would either get a scripture verse or do a tribute to his grandfather. Ok, to be honest I’d rather he have a scripture verse tattoo than earrings or any other type of tattoo. But what is the root issue behind this – is it to evangelize or is it to fit into a carnal world but within the scope of a Christian?

So I guess this is my long winded way of wondering what about those tattoos that attempt to glorify the Lord? I say “attempt” because I’m not convinced that it’s okay but I’m seeing cases where it’s an effective evangelical tool….I suppose the answer comes back to what’s already been stated - if the person is at peace with God regarding it, then let that be the guide….but I’m still noodling over it… scratching chin

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Re: Is getting tattoo okay?

Post by dreamster on Thu May 24, 2012 9:17 pm

scratching chin 2 be breif,, the otha scrip is man judges the outa apperance wer as God judges the heart of man, ,,and its not wat goes in2 a man that makes him unklean but wat proceeds frm his mouth :blah: :blah: ,,im not still not moved really eitha way hiding laugh jus so long as ther not compulsery, :shocking: :hairraising:

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Re: Is getting tattoo okay?

Post by lola21st on Thu May 24, 2012 10:04 pm

too funny, ironically, I ran into the same guy this evening at a different restaurant...the real irony is that I recognized the tattoo before I recognized him.... laugh

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Post by dreamster on Thu May 24, 2012 10:16 pm

happy dance an who says advertising dont werk Banned :hooray: :laughing:

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Post by lola21st on Thu May 24, 2012 10:30 pm

laugh

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Re: Is getting tattoo okay?

Post by Daisy on Fri May 25, 2012 10:19 am

lola21st wrote: if the person is at peace with God regarding it, then let that be the guide….

I completely agree with this statement! Though I don't have any tatoos myself, and I hope that my children never get any, I personally believe this to be one of those gray areas, where it really depends upon the persons personal sanctification and convictions. Kind of like some Christians can watch rated R movies or secular music without conviction or feeling condemned, but for someone else God may be speaking to them to put those things aside bc they don't edify. Two Cents Just wanted to put my two cents in... lol!


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Post by Cholette on Fri May 25, 2012 2:56 pm

dreamster wrote: scratching chin 2 be breif,, the otha scrip is man judges the outa apperance wer as God judges the heart of man, ,,and its not wat goes in2 a man that makes him unklean but wat proceeds frm his mouth :blah: :blah: ,,im not still not moved really eitha way hiding laugh jus so long as ther not compulsery, :shocking: :hairraising:

These are the EXACT scriptures that came to mind when I read the original post to this thread. I really think that as Christians we pay too close to what takes place outside of a person and like to judge them accordingly. The thing is, we pick and choose what we deem good or bad. Yes our bodies belong to God, but when we lay down with people we aren't married to...gossip about people we really know nothing about...etc...you can't see those things ON A PERSON. This is why God had to put these two scriptures in the Bible, that Dee quoted, so that we can come back to the realization of what's important...man's heart...which ultimately means his motivation for doing something.

I don't care either way, to be honest with you. I'm after the soul of a person. I'm looking for them to get healed and delivered from whatever they need to be healed and delivered from. If a Christian decides to get a tattoo, it doesn't matter to me because if it doesn't change God's heart towards them, then I don't want my heart to change either.


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Post by dreamster on Fri May 25, 2012 3:04 pm

idea yes thanks C soapbox u saved me all thgat typein type ,,good points 2 Cheering :hooray: huggins

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Post by lola21st on Fri May 25, 2012 3:47 pm

I don't care either way, to be honest with you. I'm after the soul of a person. I'm looking for them to get healed and delivered from whatever they need to be healed and delivered from. If a Christian decides to get a tattoo, it doesn't matter to me because if it doesn't change God's heart towards them, then I don't want my heart to change either.

Amen, I think that's the crux of it at the end of the day for me.

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Post by owen on Fri May 25, 2012 6:33 pm

Cholette, I totally agree with you. We can never jugde a person's heart by outward appeareance.

Lurdys, I was laugh at your experience with your young friend.

lola21st wrote:too funny, ironically, I ran into the same guy this evening at a different restaurant...the real irony is that I recognized the tattoo before I recognized him.... laugh

lol!


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Post by Daisy on Fri May 25, 2012 6:57 pm

lola21st wrote:
I don't care either way, to be honest with you. I'm after the soul of a person. I'm looking for them to get healed and delivered from whatever they need to be healed and delivered from. If a Christian decides to get a tattoo, it doesn't matter to me because if it doesn't change God's heart towards them, then I don't want my heart to change either.

Amen, I think that's the crux of it at the end of the day for me.
Amen!! I couldn't agree more!!! happy dance


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Post by owen on Fri May 25, 2012 7:22 pm

Daisy wrote:

I completely agree with this statement! Though I don't have any tatoos myself, and I hope that my children never get any, I personally believe this to be one of those gray areas, where it really depends upon the persons personal sanctification and convictions. Kind of like some Christians can watch rated R movies or secular music without conviction or feeling condemned, but for someone else God may be speaking to them to put those things aside bc they don't edify. Two Cents Just wanted to put my two cents in... lol!

Daisy, seriously speaking, I have never known a man or woman who walks closer with God watching rated R movies, with tattoes, listening secular music, for woman; wearing mini skirts and revealing dress. You are right, I do agree that it is about personal conviction. What I have understood until now, the more I get closer to know Him and stay beside Him, the more I lost my appetite of the things of this world. and if I decide to stay away from Him even for just a day, longing of the things of this world starts to creep within me. Well, I'm not only talking about tattoos, I am talking in general. Apostle Paul said that everything is permissible but not everything is beneficial.

A friend of mine ask me and my wife why we dont have cable t.v. in my house. I told him directly that I dont want my son watching tv during his free time. My son doesn't have any idea who is superman, batman, transformers, cartoon network, and the list goes on and on. I know for sure for other parents this is crazy. In fact, someone told us that we(my wife and I) are just being too hard to our son that my son's childhood is not normal. My wife replied, "for the world is not normal, but i believe for God it's normal."
I put our son into two different Christian schools, one when he was in kinder and the other for prepaparatory. the teachers made the same comment. That our son is different from other children, different in a positive way. They said he is not violent, but respectful. He does watch t.v. sometimes, I bought him a complete set of children's Bible story. It makes me thank God that he knows more of the Bible characters than those t.v. cartoon characters.

My point is, I believe our conviction of what is okay and what is not depends on how closer are we to God.



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