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Post by KDRE on Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:04 pm

Tell me saints and be honest

Why do I think about it all the time? Why am I the only one in my area, church, etc.. who has some kind of crazy desire to feel like this is what I want/need/desire working in my life

I mean, is it possible to be on ones mind all the time and it not be in you somewhere?

Its hard to explain it to people and at times I feel like I desire something unrealistic but I know whats in the scriptures, I know how I feel... but its almost like explaining this to a frenchman when I try to talk to people about it

Am I losing it... Im serious


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Post by Dove-Solutions on Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:53 pm

KDRE,

I have a hard time to articulate what I am trying to say sometimes. It is like in my head and I know what I want to say but I just can't seem to get my words out. I think mostly it is because I think faster than my little lips can speak...LOL. So maybe in this situation you just that you have to ask the Lord to give you a way to express it. Ask him to have his words to describe it. I pray that helps.

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Post by Dove-Solutions on Fri Apr 13, 2012 12:55 pm

OOPs I just realized what you meant here. No it is not crazy....it is embedded in your spirit. Once it is there it can't be forgotten. God has given you the desire and the passion for it.

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Re: Word of Knowledge, Prophecy, Word of Wisdom ARGHHHH

Post by KDRE on Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:09 pm

Ok but this is the thing

I can tell people hey, God gave me a calling in Jeremiah 1:5

They'll tell me oh you'll be pastor one day

I say I have no desire for that, nor do I feel that right now

I do however have this thing im trying to describe that is there every single day whether i want to think about it or not

I feel like no one around me truly understands what im trying to say, which is one reason i searched and found and signed up on this forum

From the dreams/visions i've had to how im feeling this very day, surely everyone cant all be teachers or pastors


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Post by Dove-Solutions on Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:13 pm

This is so true! Many can be though. There are many people and many people have yet to hear the good news of Jesus Christ. My signature verse says: Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not to your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him and he will direct your path. Proverbs 3:5-6.

Do not try to understand but believe and trust in him. I pray this is helpful.

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Post by KDRE on Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:15 pm

Yes of course it is. Thing is, I am a bit frustrated because my pastor and church depends on me alot, yet at the same time what i feel inside is not being nurtured or fed

Matter of fact I feel im in transition and our current assistant pastor is actually going off to pastor and asked if I'd come with my family if it was ok

Well im sure my pastor probably wont be okay with that, but again, at what point is it ok to let home go no matter what the ties are to take the opportunity to possibly grow?


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Post by dreamster on Fri Apr 13, 2012 1:59 pm

:hi: k,,um i feel ur frustration, :hairraising: ,,it seems 2 be the plight of prophetik ppl, u need 2 function in ur gifts an calling,, wen u cant , u go in 2 ovaload, :shocking: ,,alot of churchs dont move in the prophetik duh mi suggestion is 2 go 2 a prophetik confrance ,,ther r major ministries thyat do that sorta thing, i will pm u one, ther r alotta good books /materials out ther that will help u thru this time, u r not alone,, many ppl hav experianced wat u hav, :hairraising: ther r pastas who hav prophetik edge 2 ther ministry, so dont rule that out completely, thumbs ,,hope this helps ,,,,,,,,, sweet dreams 2 D,,timeout, happy dance

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Post by KDRE on Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:18 pm

Shucks I had a long post written out and it didnt reply

In short, there isnt much about prophetic ministries in Los Angeles.

Where I reside now, the pastor only preaches about staying away from the false prophecies and so on, so there isnt much balance in the teaching.

I was helping him change after he preached one night and he said to me out of the blue "I dont ever want to go anywhere and see you on program as the main speaker "Prophet Key".. he said when people call themselves prophets, "that means something", and I dont think he meant that in a good way..well I know he didnt lol

Well I didnt say anything but I thought it was odd and random that he even said that to me and I wondered if God gave him some kind of inclination at the moment and he shot it down or I could be completely wrong altogether.

Anyhow, I have moments where what I feel inside is something I might need to tend to, but dont know how, dont know what it is in a sense, and I can't talk to my leaders about it so much because of the reasons I stated.

Its tough at times...others I just try to ignore it or even others im excited of the possibilities but I'd say its dormant... Today was one of those days where I felt like a bubble was about to pop inside of me and it was bothering me.. I had to vent. I dont know sometimes if im thinking off the mark or not because of this struggle

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Post by dreamster on Fri Apr 13, 2012 3:36 pm

bandaid no not off the mark, ur jus anutha frustrated person not reachg ur destiny,, ur pasta is threatened by ur gift/calling idea oldguy soapbox :blah: ,,2 the point of shutting u down be4 u even start,, shocked u feel ur potential u kno ther is much more 4 u,, holy moly woo hoo u may well hav2 look outside ur zip code lol! 4 further input,, i think ur destiny will push u antagonize antagonize till u cant stand it no more nerd laugh time 2 leave the brook cherith lill elijah happy dance ,,wen u find ur place u will feel a total sense of arrival,completeness,, Flower Power woohoo ,,u owe it 2urself smiley dance so no more hiding ,,but 4ward 2 soapbox :blah: ,,,,,,,,,,,,,, sweet dreams 2 D,,, ruling an reignin, happy dance

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Re: Word of Knowledge, Prophecy, Word of Wisdom ARGHHHH

Post by Cholette on Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:03 pm

Hi KDRE!

I truly understand where you are and I can say this to you with every fiber of my being...God will take you where you need to be to utilize what is inside of you.

I was a part of a church for 20 years. Little did I know that the church was suppressing what was inside of me. I knew I had some gift, but I didn't realize how HUGE my gift and call was. Without me knowing, God was slowly disconnecting me from my church by not allowing the ministry of the word to minister to me anymore. There was something missing. I finally couldn't take not being ministered to so I left on a quest to find THE church where God could speak to me again.

I ended up visiting a small church and when I walked in, the Pastor stood me up in the service and gave me the word of the Lord that said "God brough you here to promote you..." This man spoke to every call in me and allowed God to show him where to put me in the ministry. Within a year of becoming a part of that church, I was on leadership and ordained as a Prophet. Only God can do that...he got no help from me...lol! I'm a behind the scenes type of gal and I dont' like being out in the forefront so I went forward kicking and screaming, but I have lived the scripture that says...

A manís gift makes room for him, And brings him before great men (Prov 18:16)


My gift was making room for me the moment I became unhappy with not receving ministry from my other church.† My gift led me to the right church where it could be nurtured and cultivated...ONLY GOD can do that.


I said all of that to say this to you...BE STILL and know that God is God.† He will get you where you need to be.† Frustration is not of God so you need to lay it on his lap and allow him to do what needs to be done and so you can hear him and discern his leading.† Maybe you've outgrown your church...but God will confirm that to you.† It's okay...you won't miss a beat...you won't miss a step.† There are plenty of ways you can operate in what you know is inside of you.† I didn't think I was a Global Prophet, but I felt the need to give people the word of the Lord all of the time.† I just did it because it was welling up in me.† You don't need a platform to do what you are called to do.† You can prophesy to those who are in your personal world...family...friends...strangers.† That is what I do...I always ask God to put people in my path that need to hear a word from him.† I can be in WalMart waiting to check out and someone will be in front of me or behind me and I will just give them what God lays on my heart.† Oh, there is no greater reward than to see the look on their faces...that's what it's all about so God can be glorified. You dont' have to prove or explain you call...just BE who you are...no titles...no understanding from anyone...JUST BE!


I pray this helps!




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Post by Cholette on Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:09 pm

One more thing...your Pastor is misinformed. Don't worry about that...your call is YOUR CALL. I know where he's coming from with the titles because I'm the same way. There have been so much negativity surrounding people who HAD TO BE CALLED Prophet this or Prophet that and they never prophesied or did anything...the title was a ego booster. When My pastor asked everyone to start calling me Prophetess Cholette, I shunned the idea because it represented negative stuff in my mindset. My thing is...just be who you are...no titles, no nothing...that's where I am with it. I still shutter when people call me by my CALL, but I always just tell myself that Prophet is what I do, not my first name.

No worries...let it go and just do what God is callng you to do. In no time you will be where God is calling you to be.


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Post by dreamster on Fri Apr 13, 2012 4:20 pm

lol! happy dance i rest mi case, laugh sweet dreams 2 D,,, restg frm his labours, Flower Power lol!

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Re: Word of Knowledge, Prophecy, Word of Wisdom ARGHHHH

Post by KDRE on Fri Apr 13, 2012 5:06 pm

Cholette

I know we talked before but I dont think you ever told me that perspective. ...and please understand I dont care about a title, a position, im not into politics in the church. What he said to me that night, I dont know why he said that, I never talk to him about that, I dont mention anything, I dont hint at anything, I dont know what that was all about. It was odd when I thought about it later on he would even say that.

That said he's very old school and I understand he saw alot of people get burned. I know he is a soul winner, I know he has the gift of healings working in his ministry, but I also know that I wasnt made to be a clone of him. It annoys me that he says follow me so much anyway, because you should always admonish people to follow Christ and they'll be in their place if they want to please him.... anyhow

The church loves when I do opening prayer, and I couldnt understand why at first, but I do now... it has alot to do with the call and the gifting on my life and God gives me to pray a certain way the way he does and it affects people alot, stirs them inside, I understand that now, and I see that it was God the whole time.

What you got is what I dont have though, someone to confirm what is in you. As of right now, once our assistant pastor leaves as I was telling Dreamster, I want to go with him because he believes in using people, letting people operate in their gifts, not trying to be the whole show, teaching on all the gifts and callings and so on

Thing is, I have to tell my pastor who loves the fact that im always there and faithful and so involved and locked in that I want to leave, which he wont like im sure. If its not a no its a we need you thing, if its not that its you're out the will of God, if its not that he says dont come to me to tell me youre going to leave, its a waste of my time.

Again, I do believe that people say pastor and youre going to be a pastor because thats all they see, and our church is so pastor centric (not a joke) what else would they say. Not one person has claimed to have seen on me anything but that, nevermind Jer 1:5 is what God told me.

I will tell you though without a doubt, that there is no training for this kind of a ministry which is why I feel so strange even talking about it


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Post by Cholette on Fri Apr 13, 2012 6:26 pm

In no way am i insinuating that you were about titles. If i gave that impression, i apologize. was saying that to let you know that I believe I Knew where your pastor was coming from when he made the comment. To hear that someone is a prophet may give someone the assumption that the person is out for titles because many are....that's all.

I get that your church doesn't nurture anything outside of the role of a pastor...my former church didn't either. They didn't believe in prophets at all. My point in sharing my story is that no o e can stop your purpose from coming to pass...no one!! You may be unconfortable because it's time to move forward. My point was to encourage you to relax because your gift WILL make room fo you. Spend this time in God's presence more than ever. We have more in common than you know and I'm sharing so you can have peace.

This is a good season for you...


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Post by KDRE on Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:03 pm

Cholette wrote:In no way am i insinuating that you were about titles. If i gave that impression, i apologize. was saying that to let you know that I believe I Knew where your pastor was coming from when he made the comment. To hear that someone is a prophet may give someone the assumption that the person is out for titles because many are....that's all.

I completely understand and I didn't take it that way at all. I really do get it. The reason I mentioned it was because to me, after I think about it.....I seem like im coming off about it that way, when I try to talk to people about it..which may not be the case but it seems like it although thats not what im doing. Hope that made sense lol.

Pastor just made that comment to me for no reason, and im sure the spirit of God was still on him at that moment since he had just finished preaching...so it was kind of odd that it came out of nowhere, especially since we dont in particular talk about that stuff.

I did long long ago bring him a form to sign so that I could attend Prophet Sinegal's school online but he told me no and said nobody can teach you what God has to tell you to do. Well I only wanted to go to learn about the office of a prophet because we dont teach on it..that was it, but I didn't say anything, I just kept going on. Beyond that, I've never talked to him about anything like this.


I get that your church doesn't nurture anything outside of the role of a pastor...

yes... all I hear is pastor, preacher, evangelist, and missionary mostly.

my former church didn't either. They didn't believe in prophets at all. My point in sharing my story is that no one can stop your purpose from coming to pass...no one!!

I want you to know I hear you loud and clear. Just thought that it might have to come from somewhere other than where I am, I never would've thought it would have to be like that.

You may be unconfortable because it's time to move forward. My point was to encourage you to relax because your gift WILL make room fo you. Spend this time in God's presence more than ever. We have more in common than you know and I'm sharing so you can have peace.

Thanks Colette! I do believe this site was established for people of God like yourself and mine... and others whos lives are meant to operate in this realm of the spirit.
You and Dreamster may not know it but today your words have meant so much to me.. you have NO IDEA!!!

This is a good season for you...
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This part you'll have to explain to me laugh

Once I tell you guys everything thats going on, Im definitely wondering where the going to have a different perspective on quite a few things.

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Post by dreamster on Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:26 pm

soapbox :blah: ,,the season of transition, deut 32;11, :hairraising: thumbs ,,,,,,,,,,D,,,,,,,um you\\'re welcome!

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Post by KDRE on Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:30 pm

Ok I accept it\\'s all good

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Post by dreamster on Fri Apr 13, 2012 7:58 pm

yep resistance is futile, laugh [star trek ist contact], :beammeup: ,,,i love mi lill helpers, :hairraising: :donut: idea etc, ,,,,,,,, sweet dreams 2 D,,ina werld of his own, lol!

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Post by KDRE on Fri Apr 13, 2012 8:57 pm

It works for me though

I do have some more things to share in time though... just can't right at the moment but its interesting nonetheless

I now have to go do a little bit of prayer on what we discussed today
Thanks to you and Cholette

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Post by Cholette on Thu May 03, 2012 1:39 pm

How are things going KDRE?? I thought about you this past weekend...my Pastor was teaching on the Gift of Prophecy vs. The Office of the Prophet and he mentioned how certain churches don't believe the other 5 fold offices exist.

Just wondering if anything has changed...my prayer group has been praying for you...


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Post by KDRE on Tue Jun 12, 2012 10:31 am

Hey Cholette

I'm going to inbox you

I am actually at a place where I can now update you guys, and I can intepret the dream I had 2 years ago that I posted on here.... pretty wild lol. Its just alot to write and I dont know if you guys can take reading a book lol.

I love this place and all of you guys. I just miss talking to Mia. How and where is she?

BTW, Thank You and your prayer group for praying for me... SO MUCH!

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