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Post by Dove-Solutions on Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:19 pm

TheWhiteShadow wrote:Romans 13:1 - "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

1 Timothy 2:1-4 "I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone— for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth."

And, while I won't post it all, there's the rule of Manasseh in 2 Chronicles 33: http://niv.scripturetext.com/2_chronicles/33.htm, whose reign began with him "doing evil in the eyes of the LORD," but who eventually came to repentance after judgement. It says that God heard his plea, brought him back to his kingdom, and then he knew that the LORD is God.

No leader, save Christ himself, is perfect. We are told to pray.



We agree with the Word, and we pray for whomever we have as leaders.

We agree with the Word, and we pray for our coworkers.

We agree with the Word, and we pray for our families and friends.


Lastly, Politics are a delicate topic for many. Just as a blanket statement, let's remember that this is a site primarily for dream interpretation...and also for prayer and encouragement with our brothers and sisters. Unsaved eyes come here, so let's be especially careful in the way that we express our political beliefs to those we love.

Thank you,
-Mark


Well stated Mark.

Love in Jesus,

Connie


~Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not to your own understanding, in all your ways acknowledge Himand He will direct your path.~ Proverbs 3:5-6

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Re: Pray for Obama!!!

Post by butterfly on Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:29 am

TheWhiteShadow wrote:Romans 13:1 - "Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God."

1 Timothy 2:1-4 "I urge, then, first of all, that requests, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for everyone— for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. This is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all men to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth."

And, while I won't post it all, there's the rule of Manasseh in 2 Chronicles 33: http://niv.scripturetext.com/2_chronicles/33.htm, whose reign began with him "doing evil in the eyes of the LORD," but who eventually came to repentance after judgement. It says that God heard his plea, brought him back to his kingdom, and then he knew that the LORD is God.

No leader, save Christ himself, is perfect. We are told to pray.

We agree with the Word, and we pray for whomever we have as leaders.

We agree with the Word, and we pray for our coworkers.

We agree with the Word, and we pray for our families and friends.


Lastly, Politics are a delicate topic for many. Just as a blanket statement, let's remember that this is a site primarily for dream interpretation...and also for prayer and encouragement with our brothers and sisters. Unsaved eyes come here, so let's be especially careful in the way that we express our political beliefs to those we love.

Thank you,
-Mark

As God told Joyce Meyer, “if you do not look on scripture in light of other scriptures you will fall into deception”. I have posted several scriptures previously in regards to submission to authority, but you have seen it fit to ignore those scriptures. If your leader tells you to murder somebody would you do it? Do you know some leaders do that? When the anti-Christ comes in power, and becomes the primary world leader will you will submitting to his authority, will you be taking the mark of the beast? After all he, the leader, will be telling you to do so. How far are Christians willing to go with their leaders? Would you keep homosexual weddings in a church? Will you pray asking Jesus Christ to bless homosexual couples? If you were in Germany during Hitler’s reign would you be one of those people who willingly capture persons and put them in the gas chambers for them to be murdered. Or are you and other persons going to be like Daniel who was told in a King’s decree not to pray to God anymore and he disobeyed the King’s order and opened up his window like he always did praying not hiding the fact that he was praying to God. Will Christians be like Shadrach, Mesach and Abendego who refused to worship the idol which the King commanded everyone to worship or will Christians worship the idol. It is your choice. Either you accept God or you reject God.

When King Herod married his brother's wife John the Baptist rebuke the King for what he had done as well as other bad things he had done, and John was locked up in prison for that. Did God have a problem with what John the Baptist had done, or was he moved by the Holy Ghost and that is why he rebuked the King?

Luke 3 verse 19-20:

[19] But Herod the tetrarch, being reproved by him for Herodias his brother Philip's wife, and for all the evils which Herod had done,
[20] Added yet this above all, that he shut up John in prison.


You mention the repentance of the king when it is clear to see that you and others disregard repentance, the seriousness of sin, and the need for people to accept responsiblity for their actions. I mentioned repentance in my previous post as well as in other posts on this forum, I have said Obama needs to repent, none of you ever said that, why? Because you do not believe Obama has done anything wrong and therefore does not need to repent. It is as simple as that. You all keep on giving excuses, 'he's not perfect', 'he's not perfect'. What will you all tell God on the day of judgement? King Manasseh refused to obey God and God made him be taken in captive in shackles and chains until he obeyed him. Do you want God to put you all in shackles and chains in order to get you to repent and obey him? God told the prophets to go and confront the King about his behaviour and his actions which they did and the King refused to obey God, so God had to deal with him in a severe manner. Presidents, Prime Ministers and those in authority influences and impacts the life of many many people, having the ability to create laws and implement them, and more, either to the good of the people or to their detriment and destruction. As a result God has to deal with leaders in a very strong manner as he sees fit.

I was going to pray for Obama one day and God told me not to pray for him. Imagine that. So grievous what Obama has done, that God told me not to pray for him. Why don’t you go in your respective prayer closets and ask God why he told me not to pray for Obama. I will not pray for the safety of someone who wants to and has enforced laws that goes against God’s laws, neither will I pray for that person to be blessed, I will not pray for the safety of someone who wants to put Israel in danger, who is persecuting the church, who wants to destroy America and other nations, because that is exactly what Obama wants to do and is doing.

Your nation is a wicked nation, your leaders are wicked, you are a disobedient Church, and you are a disobedient people. Your leaders constantly go into countries creating absolute chaos and mayhem to fulfil their demonic agendas with no regard for the life or welfare of anybody, what is the response of the church in America to the atrocities perpetrated by their government? Are most Christians in America sad at people being killed? No? Upset? No. Do most Christians in America care? No.

You said basically that my words are a detriment to the unsaved, that means that you consider the bible itself a detriment to the unsaved. How does a person gets saved? Can persons get saved without repenting for their sins? How does repentance come about? How does a person repent? I tell you that persons need to take responsibility for their action, that persons should repent, and that there are consequences to disobeying Jesus Christ commandments and you clearly have a problem with that.

You said this is a dream interpretation site. In case you have forgotten God has been giving me dreams about your nation and about Barack Obama and who he is and why he is bringing disasters in your nation.

Christians we are not here to tell people what they want to hear but what they need to hear.

People here keep on using prayer as an excuse to not do what God wants them to do. Should the only thing Christian do is to pray? Is that what the word of God says. Someone posted on a thread saying that their Pastor said that the only thing Jesus Christ did was to pray and not criticize? Is that the only thing Jesus Christ did? No one saw it fit to correct that individual? What does the bible say Jesus Christ did? Christians have no excuse, you can't say my Pastor said this, that, what does the bible have to say?

Do you all want to know who Barack Obama is? He is one of the forerunners of the Anti-Christ. How do I know? People became to literally began to worship Obama, as if he is Jesus Christ, utter blasphemy, and many Christians in America ignored it. Barack Obama never once condemned what was happening. As a matter of fact he said that he has done his works and have rested, likening himself to God when God created the earth and rested on the 7th day. Utter blasphemy. Where is the church when all this and more are happening?


100 days in office, Obama coronated Messiah

http://www.wnd.com/2009/04/96138/


On his 100th day in office, President Obama will be “crowned” in messianic imagery at New York City’s Union Square.

Artist Michael D’Antuono’s painting “The Truth” – featuring Obama with his arms outstretched and wearing a crown of thorns upon his head – will be unveiled on April 29 at the Square’s South Plaza.

According to a statement released about the portrait, “The 30″ x 54″ acrylic painting on canvas depicts President Obama appearing much like Jesus Christ on the Cross: atop his head, a crown of thorns; behind him, the dark veil being lifted (or lowered) on the Presidential Seal. But is he revealing or concealing, and is he being crucified or glorified?”

Even the title of the piece, “The Truth,” suggests a play on biblical themes, as Jesus said in John 14:6, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.”

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As WND has reported, D’Antuono follows others who have cast Obama in messianic imagery.

In January, artist Matthew J. Clark paraded a sculpture of Obama riding a donkey and preceded by waving palm fronds, reminiscent of Jesus’ entry into Jerusalem in the 21st chapter of Matthew as foretold by the prophet Zechariah: “Behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an (My word was removed because I swore).”

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Others, such as Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, have been far clearer in their nearly religious adoration of Obama. As WND reported, Farrakhan declared last year that when Obama talks, “the Messiah is absolutely speaking.”

Addressing a large crowd behind a podium with a Nation of Islam Saviours’ Day 2008 sign, Farrakhan proclaimed, “You are the instruments that God is going to use to bring about universal change, and that is why Barack has captured the youth. And he has involved young people in a political process that they didn’t care anything about. That’s a sign. When the Messiah speaks, the youth will hear, and the Messiah is absolutely speaking.”


Farrakhan pointed out that the man Nation of Islam followers refer to as “the Saviour,” Fard Muhammad, had a black father and a white mother, just as Obama did.

“A black man with a white mother became a saviour to us,” he said. “A black man with a white mother could turn out to be one who can lift America from her fall.”


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The site is topped by an Obama quote strategically ripped from a Jan. 7 speech at Dartmouth College just before the New Hampshire Primary in which he told students, “… a light will shine through that window, a beam of light will come down upon you, you will experience an epiphany, and you will suddenly realize that you must go to the polls and vote” for Obama

WND also reported on near-religious experiences surrounding Obama on the campaign trail, as supporters who came to hear him speak on several occasions fainted in the middle of the candidate’s speeches.

As WND reported, some compared the fainting to fanatical swooning in the midst of a mesmerizing preacher; others, like radio host Michael Medved, thought the collapses were staged moments; and still others believed it was simply a matter of people standing in the crowds too long and growing dehydrated.


P.J. Gladnick of NewsBusters, in an article about D’Antuono’s painting on the eve of the Obama administration’s 100-day-mark, notes that the messianic parallels begun early in the presidential campaign don’t seem to be stopping:

“The artist quite clearly portrays Obama as a latter day Christ-like figure, considering the outstretched arms and the crown of thorns. Obama worship, complete with halo images, has been noted before,” writes Gladnick, “but it was nothing compared to current expressions in awe of ‘The One’ as we approach his hundredth day in office on Wednesday.”


http://www.wnd.com/2009/04/96138/


Obama seeks Hanuman's blessing

http://www.hindustantimes.com/world-news/Americas/Obama-seeks-Hanuman-s-blessing/Article1-316167.aspx


India monkey god idol for Obama

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7468662.stm


Who is Barack Obama? Barack Obama says he is a Christian but he is lying, he is a Muslim. How do I know he is a Muslim? Several reasons inluding that Obama went on his knees praying to Allah. What else has Obama done that Christians have been ignoring. Let's see:


Obama: "My Muslim Faith"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMUgNg7aD8M


Obama Calls For New World Order In Berlin

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0CV8Xt2VWvc


OBAMA SAYS CONSTITUTION DEEP FLAW CONTINUES TODAY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11OhmY1obS4


Obama-Muslim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCAffMSWSzY&feature=related


Obama Prays with Muslims White House He Cancels National Day of Prayer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaKeWwE0t7E&feature=related


2 Thessalonians 2 verse 1-4:

[1] Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
[2] That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
[3] Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
[4] Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
[5] Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
[6] And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
[7] For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
[8] And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
[9] Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

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Re: Pray for Obama!!!

Post by Daisy on Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:52 am

Hi Butterfly~ :hi: While certainly you are entitled to your opinion, there is a way in which to go about saying this things in a respectful tone, which glorifies the Lord. I understand that you are passionate about this subject, but on this posting your tone comes across sort of rude, sharp, in an aggressive sort of way.. I believe the point in which Mark was trying to make was that these passionate topics and opinions can be communicated in a sensitive and respectful way. A way which is uplifting, positive and loving. Bless You


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