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Post by owen on Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:48 pm

This is my first time to ask everyone to please pray for me.

These past 2 weeks have been very stressful to me, which affected me mentally, emotionally and spiritually. I can not tell specifically but I can give a general background background of what is happening.
I posted a dream about my laptop, that I coudnt find the battery. That dream is manifesting now. In my work , there are issues that I am facing with which drained my strength and courage. And the issues are: first, I work in a Christian School, but I see compromises of biblical principles in management that makes me very uncomfortable, not because I want it to happen, but because I donít have authority to change it. And another problem with this is I worked directly with the owner. Second I felt helpless and frustrated because I know what is happening in front of my eyes is definitely unjust and unrighteous.

Please pray with me, I have been asking God if I need to look for another job, or I need to stay, and just be passive, as if nothing happens.

God had showed this to me in a dream, and now it is manifesting.

Again I ask everyone to please, pray with me.

Lord, I ask you to guide me. Please reveal your plan that I may obey you. Open a door of opportunity if you want me to leave my job, and work in another. In Jesus name, amen!



Something really bad happened today.

Angry man came to the school, he wanted to talk to the owner. The owner could not talk to him for two reasons, she is out of town busy praparing for a conference, and I dont want to give him her mobile number, because I knew the problem will get worst. As usual , I have to face him calmly trying to cool him down. But instead he was threatening me, and my family. His anger was directed towards me, telling me that he had friends to do some research about me. I knew what he was thinking, so I told him, we can not resolve the problem like this. I just told him plainly that I cant help him.

I have peace in heart, I am just aking God like....Lord do you have the next step?

I believe the dream about Lola giving me a pen and notebook and the school in the cliff is partially manifesting.

I still ask all you guys to pray for proctection over me and my family.

Thank you so much!!!!!


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Re: UPDATED!!!!To stay or not to stay! That is the question?UPDATED!!!!

Post by owen on Wed Feb 02, 2011 2:50 pm

If anyone can give me some advice, I will be very very very very glad to hear!!!!

Thanks

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Post by dreamster on Wed Feb 02, 2011 3:46 pm

evil trumphs wen good men do nuthing,, if u cant bring change ,,and u can tolerate status quo ,,i wood look else wher,, it depenps on how much ur prepared 2 tolerate , ,,,, gen D

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Post by dreamster on Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:01 pm

i rememba tha drm ,, losein ur battery ,,is u loseing ur powa,,

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Post by owen on Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:23 pm

dreamster wrote: evil trumphs wen good men do nuthing,, if u cant bring change ,,and u can tolerate status quo ,,i wood look else wher,, it depenps on how much ur prepared 2 tolerate , ,,,, gen D

Gen D soldier I totally understand what you mean, but I forgot to include that the owner is a christian and her husband is a pastor. I am surrounded with christians in my work. I worked as supervisor, but I am subject to their authority. though I want to change what seems unbiblical and unchristian, but i dont have power to change, the last desicion does not come from me.

Another thing is that, we have some doctrinal barrier between me and the owners, they dont believe in prophecy, in dreams, in the gifts of the holy Spirit. We dont even talk about God to avoid conflicts. My work is simply professional, no more no less.

God has been showing some things to me about them. Sometimes He revealed some of their plans they made, they didnt know that I knew it.

To be fair, they are nice to me, I believe they are good persons. What breaks my heart is I can not participate in the compromise.

Anyways thanks for your input and for your prayers!!!! praying praying praying


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Post by owen on Wed Feb 02, 2011 4:49 pm

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Post by traveller on Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:41 pm

Lord Jesus, I ask for You to go before Owen in this situation at his work. Lord, give him Your wisdom, Your strength, Your power to do and say what You want him to do, what to say or what not to say. Let Your peace be with him at all times. Let Your will be done in this situation Lord. I ask in Your Name Jesus, amen.

God bless you Owen!

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Post by dorothy07 on Wed Feb 02, 2011 5:57 pm

Owen,

Before you leave your job, pray for a certain time frame I.E.Two weeks.....ask the lord if he has placed you in this situation in order to bring about change in . Maybe the lord had given you special insight on how the enemy is tricking your brothers and sisters in Christ into manilulating there own christain principles and setting them up for failure, Satan may be trying to throw a wrench in God's plan for them. Maybe you are placed there to bring about change, Maybe Satan may be tricking you into thinking you have no authority when God has placed you in total authority. You may not feel like you do because of your position???? Pray and ask god if you should try to bring about change and if it is in his plan, ask him how to proceed. These are my thoughts on the matter. I hope this helps and may god guide you always.

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Post by owen on Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:28 pm

traveller wrote:Lord Jesus, I ask for You to go before Owen in this situation at his work. Lord, give him Your wisdom, Your strength, Your power to do and say what You want him to do, what to say or what not to say. Let Your peace be with him at all times. Let Your will be done in this situation Lord. I ask in Your Name Jesus, amen.

God bless you Owen!

Thank you!!!!!!! I received that prayer In Jesus name.

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Post by owen on Wed Feb 02, 2011 6:33 pm

dorothy07 wrote:Owen,

Before you leave your job, pray for a certain time frame I.E.Two weeks.....ask the lord if he has placed you in this situation in order to bring about change in . Maybe the lord had given you special insight on how the enemy is tricking your brothers and sisters in Christ into manilulating there own christain principles and setting them up for failure, Satan may be trying to throw a wrench in God's plan for them. Maybe you are placed there to bring about change, Maybe Satan may be tricking you into thinking you have no authority when God has placed you in total authority. You may not feel like you do because of your position???? Pray and ask god if you should try to bring about change and if it is in his plan, ask him how to proceed. These are my thoughts on the matter. I hope this helps and may god guide you always.

Dorothy,

As of now I am having second thoughts, still waiting for the signal of God, I have to stay, if He wants. And you are right, I am very careful of how I act and say in my work. I am doing what is the best I can do.

I am taking your advice, coz I know I have to wait....

Thank you so much!!!!

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Post by dreamster on Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:46 am

ugh owin ,,i feel ur situ, ,.,ive found otha beleavers the hardest group of ppl 2 werk 4,, ,, id ratha werrk 4 unsaved ppl ,,its sad but true,, um perhaps if u pray like othas hav said,, see wat lordy can do in a tme frame,, ,,

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Post by owen on Thu Feb 03, 2011 6:42 am

Im afraid you are right Gen D, about working with christians. In fairness, I had worked with other christian institution where I saw chiristain integrity was one of the goals.

I am here where I work right now because of favor for them that somehow the owners are related to me.

The worst thing that I have experienced so far with in seven months is that sometimes I have to resolve the consequences of their wrong desicions. I am always trying to suggest what is best, but I dont have the last words to say.

:lordhelpus: esp me!!! praying

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Post by lola21st on Thu Feb 03, 2011 11:59 am

Hi Owen -

I remember the power outage dream and recall that the owners are relatives which makes it that much more complicated... bandaid

I agree with the advice that you've received so far - I would enter a period of fasting/prayer over the situation and continue to seek the Lord's counsel. If you aren't receiving any new revelations, it may just mean that you should be still and continue to do what you're doing.

The worst thing that I have experienced so far with in seven months is that sometimes I have to resolve the consequences of their wrong desicions. I am always trying to suggest what is best, but I dont have the last words to say.

This may be your purpose there for the time being - to offer the righteous suggestion and 'clean up' the messes that they create. This can be a draining and frustrating period, especially when the people involved are Christians, but it's a reminder that we're far from perfect and still operate with serious flaws. Thank God for His grace! flower Also, this is good training/refining should you ever want to become a pastor - offering people advice and watching as they don't take it.... sigh

I will keep you in prayer that the Lord shares His wisdom with you and equips you with what you need to move through this period... Bless You

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Post by Cholette on Thu Feb 03, 2011 1:01 pm

Lurdys said EXACTLY what I was TRYING to say. Everytime I would begin typing, someone would come into my office and interrupt me!

Be encouraged Owen...this battle isn't yours. Just get God's game plan to see what He's doing and just follow suit... flower


Do not fight FOR victory, but fight FROM THE PLACE of victory. Jesus has ALREADY won the battle!

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Post by Gissy2 on Thu Feb 03, 2011 2:27 pm


owen, I would continue to pray, remember Danial, with compromises all around him, he continued to obey God.

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Post by owen on Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:10 pm

Thank you, Lurdys, Cholette, Gissy!!!!!!!!!

You dont know how much I am grateful for your encouraging words.

thank you thank you thank you


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Post by owen on Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:33 pm

lola21st wrote:Hi Owen -

This may be your purpose there for the time being - to offer the righteous suggestion and 'clean up' the messes that they create. This can be a draining and frustrating period, especially when the people involved are Christians, but it's a reminder that we're far from perfect and still operate with serious flaws. Thank God for His grace! flower Also, this is good training/refining should you ever want to become a pastor - offering people advice and watching as they don't take it.... sigh


Lurdys,

Some people who are involved in this work came to me because they have noticed it and tried to convince me if I can do something about it, others would say negative comments about them, and i could see their motives behind. Others are sincere and just concerned about it, while some are judmental with critical spirit. I did my best to cover and protect this couple, though I know that their comments are reasonable and true.

Sometimes I have to face angry people who want talk to this couple, and I try to be diplomatic by finding solutions. It is draining and frustrating indeed.

I remember David, inspite of what Saul has done to him, he didnt fight back.

Everyday in prayer, I always bring this case to God, asking HIm for wisdom and strengh. Because frustration and stress will drown me, if I will face it myself alone. Still, I am waiting if God will send me out to another job until I learn what I need to learn for this time.

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Post by owen on Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:34 pm

Cholette wrote:
Be encouraged Owen...this battle isn't yours. Just get God's game plan to see what He's doing and just follow suit... flower

Cholette, I take that word, in Jesus name!!

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Post by owen on Thu Feb 03, 2011 5:38 pm

Gissy2 wrote:
owen, I would continue to pray, remember Danial, with compromises all around him, he continued to obey God.

That's right Gissy, Daniel's life is perfect in this situation.

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Post by dreamster on Thu Feb 03, 2011 7:42 pm

gen D suggests let the peace of of god be ur umpire,,

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Post by owen on Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:49 pm

Amen I Know I can trust His grace ove me.

Sweet Dreams OWEN, needs a good night sleep after stressful days

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Post by dreamster on Fri Feb 04, 2011 3:57 pm

owing 2 circumstances im not supprised, ,,see u at 0500hours genD

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Post by Angelique on Mon Feb 07, 2011 11:16 am

Hi Owen,

You have received some great counsel here. My heart goes out to you. I was in a similar situation once and the Lord did not release me to leave. That was difficult. Instead He requested of me to love, cover, serve and pray for those who were over me for a season. Eventually the Lord did release me to leave and when I left I did it with honor and in peace. The owner eventually came to me a time later and apologized for the behavior and shared how God had brought conviction through my service and then departure.

I dont know what God will require of you but I am certain that He has placed you there for a reason as your heart is so right! You understand that it is not our place to judge but to allow the Holy Spirit to bring conviction. There are times where He may call us to bring correction but this is not the norm and He usually uses people that have a place of influence with those needing the correction... (ie Samuel to Saul, Nathan to David, etc)

I like what Cholette said. Just watch and pray and pray and watch what God does! I know it grieves your spirit as it grieves the heart of God which is why I am certain your prayers will be effective! Praying for strength for you to endure this season with integrity and peace. So remember to rest in the JOY of the Lord; Carry it all to the cross and let Jesus to the heavy lifting!

God bless you!!

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Post by owen on Mon Feb 07, 2011 8:41 pm

Thanks angie, glad to hear your testimony, Im encouraged.

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Post by owen on Mon Feb 07, 2011 9:00 pm

I wrote the update on my first post of this thread!!!

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