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Post by hind'sfeet on Thu Dec 02, 2010 4:51 am

I had this weird dream this morning. Seems I was hanging out with some middle easterners... The last part of the dream was that one of the middle eastern guys was learning to count in another mid east language (not Urdu). To learn, he would use his fingers and contort his body gradually ie for one it would be one finger and bend the hand at the wrist and it would continue like a dance. I only remember one number which sounded like sooka sooka...

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Post by hind'sfeet on Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:09 am

it seems sooka means distress and affliction in Hebrew?

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Post by hind'sfeet on Thu Dec 02, 2010 7:23 am

http://www.chabad.org/holidays/JewishNewYear/template_cdo/aid/4126/jewish/Sukkot.htm



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukkot
The Hebrew word sukkōt is the plural of sukkah, "booth or tabernacle", which is a walled structure covered with flora, such as tree branches or bamboo shoots. The sukkah is intended as a reminiscence of the type of fragile dwellings in which the ancient Israelites dwelt during their 40 years of wandering in the desert after the Exodus from Egypt.

Throughout the holiday the sukkah becomes the primary living area of one's home. All meals are eaten inside the sukkah and many sleep there as well. On each day of the holiday, members of the household recite a blessing over the lulav and etrog, or Four species.[1]

According to Zechariah, in the messianic era Sukkot will become a universal festival and all nations will make pilgrimages annually to Jerusalem to celebrate the feast there.[2]

Origin and ancient observance

Sukkot was agricultural in origin. This is evident from the biblical name "The Feast of Ingathering,"[3] from the ceremonies accompanying it, from the season – “The festival of the seventh month”[4] – and occasion of its celebration: "At the end of the year when you gather in your labors out of the field" (Ex. 23:16); "after you have gathered in from your threshing-floor and from your winepress" (Deut. 16:13). It was a thanksgiving for the fruit harvest. Coming as it did at the completion of the harvest, Sukkot was regarded as a general thanksgiving for the bounty of nature in the year that had passed.

Sukkot became one of the most important feasts in Judaism, as indicated by its designation as “the Feast of the Lord”[5] or simply “the Feast”.[6] Perhaps because of its wide attendance, Sukkot became the appropriate time for important state ceremonies. Moses instructed the children of Israel to gather for a reading of the Law during Sukkot every seventh year (Deut. 31:10-11). King Solomon dedicated the Temple in Jerusalem on Sukkot (1 Kings 8; 2 Chron. 7). And Sukkot was the first sacred occasion observed after the resumption of sacrifices in Jerusalem following the Babylonian captivity (Ezra 3:2-4).

In Leviticus, God told Moses to command the people: “On the first day you shall take the product of hadar trees, branches of palm trees, boughs of leafy trees, and willows of the brook” (Lev. 23:40), and “You shall live in booths seven days; all citizens in Israel shall live in booths, in order that future generations may know that I made the Israelite people live in booths when I brought them out of the land of Egypt” (Lev. 23:42-43).

Laws and customs
Sukkahs constructed of different kinds of materials, used during the holiday for eating, sleeping, and other daily activities.

Sukkot is a seven day holiday, with the first day celebrated as a full festival with special prayer services and holiday meals. The remaining days are known as Chol HaMoed ("festival weekdays"). The seventh day of Sukkot is called Hoshana Rabbah ("Great Hoshana", referring to the tradition that worshippers in the synagogue walk around the perimeter of the sanctuary during morning services) and has a special observance of its own. Outside Israel, the first two days are celebrated as full festivals. Throughout the week of Sukkot, meals are eaten in the sukkah and some families sleep there, although the requirement is waived in case of rain. Every day, a blessing is recited over the Lulav and the Etrog. Observance of Sukkot is detailed in the Book of Nehemiah in the Bible, the Mishnah (Sukkah 1:1–5:8); the Tosefta (Sukkah 1:1–4:28); and the Jerusalem Talmud (Sukkah 1a–) and Babylonian Talmud (Sukkah 2a–56b).
[edit] Prayers

Prayers during Sukkot include the reading of the Torah every day, saying the Mussaf (additional) service after morning prayers, reading the Hallel, and adding special supplications into the Amidah and grace after meals. In addition, the Four Species are taken on everyday of Sukkot except for Shabbat and are included in the Hallel and Hoshanot portions of the prayer.

Hoshanot

On each day of the festival, worshippers walk around the synagogue carrying their Four species while reciting psalm 118:25 and special prayers known as Hoshanot. This takes place either after the morning's Torah reading or at the end of Mussaf. This ceremony commemorates the willow ceremony at the Temple in Jerusalem, in which willow branches were piled beside the altar with worshipers parading around the altar reciting prayers.

Ushpizin

During the holiday, some Jews recite the ushpizin prayer which symbolises the welcoming of seven "exalted guests" into the sukkah. These ushpizin (Aramaic אושפיזין 'guests'), represent the seven shepherds of Israel: Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, Aaron, Joseph and David. According to tradition, each night a different guest enters the sukkah followed by the other six. Each of the ushpizin has a unique lesson which teaches the parallels of the spiritual focus of the day on which they visit.
[edit] Chol HaMoed
Main article: Chol HaMoed

The second through seventh days of Sukkot (third through seventh days outside Israel) are called Chol HaMoed (חול המועד - lit. "festival weekdays"). These days are considered by halakha to be more than regular weekdays but less than festival days. In practice, this means that all activities that are needed for the holiday—such as buying and preparing food, cleaning the house in honor of the holiday, or traveling to visit other people's sukkot or on family outings—are permitted by Jewish law. Activities that will interfere with relaxation and enjoyment of the holiday—such as laundering, mending clothes, engaging in labor-intensive activities—are not permitted. Observant Jews typically treat Chol HaMoed as a vacation period, eating nicer than usual meals in their sukkah, entertaining guests, visiting other families in their sukkot, and taking family outings.

On the Shabbat which falls during the week of Sukkot (or in the event when the first day of Sukkot is on Shabbat), the Book of Ecclesiastes is read during morning synagogue services in Israel. (Diaspora communities read it the following Shabbat). This Book's emphasis on the ephemeralness of life ("Vanity of vanities, all is vanity...") echoes the theme of the sukkah, while its emphasis on death reflects the time of year in which Sukkot occurs (the "autumn" of life). The second-to-last verse reinforces the message that adherence to God and His Torah is the only worthwhile pursuit.[citation needed]
[edit] Hakhel
Main article: Hakhel

In the days of the Temple in Jerusalem, all Jewish men, women, and children on pilgrimage to Jerusalem for the festival would gather in the Temple courtyard on the first day of Chol HaMoed Sukkot to hear the Jewish king read selections from the Torah. This ceremony, which was mandated in Deuteronomy 31:10-13, was held every seven years, in the year following the Shmita (Sabbatical) year. This ceremony was discontinued after the destruction of the Temple, but it has been revived by some groups and by the government of Israel on a smaller scale.[citation needed]
[edit] Simchat Beit HaShoevah
Main article: Simchat Beit HaShoeivah

During the Intermediate days of Sukkot, gatherings of music and dance, known as Simchat Beit HaShoeivah, take place. This commemorates the Water Libation Ceremony in which water was carried up the Jerusalem pilgrim road from the Pool of Siloam to the Temple in Jerusalem.
[edit] Hoshana Rabbah
Main article: Hoshana Rabbah

The seventh day of Sukkot is known as Hoshana Rabbah, meaning the "Great Supplication". This day is marked by a special service in which seven circuits are made by worshippers holding their Four species, reciting Psalm 118:25 with additional prayers. In addition, a bundle of five willow branches are beaten on the ground.
[edit] Shemini Atzeret and Simchat Torah
Main articles: Shemini Atzeret and Simchat Torah

The holiday immediately following Sukkot is known as Shemini Atzeret (lit. "Eighth [Day] of Assembly"). Shemini Atzeret is viewed as a separate holiday.[7] In the diaspora a second additional holiday, Simchat Torah (lit. "Joy of the Torah") is celebrated. In the Land of Israel, Simchat Torah is celebrated on Shemini Atzeret. On Shemini Atzeret the sukkah is left and meals are eaten inside the house. Outside of Israel, many eat in the sukkah without making the blessing. The sukkah is not used on Simchat Torah.[citation needed]

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Re: middle easterner learning to count in another mid eastern language... remember 2 "numbers"

Post by owen on Thu Dec 02, 2010 10:01 am

Amen! Nice reading! very informative! good job!

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Post by hind'sfeet on Thu Dec 02, 2010 12:34 pm

Thanks Owen! What do you think dreaming about Sukkot (2 sukkahs) and a middleasterner?

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Post by owen on Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:10 pm

what did you do in the dream?

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Post by hind'sfeet on Thu Dec 02, 2010 1:18 pm

I was there but I don't remember what I was doing, just watching I guess.

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Post by owen on Thu Dec 02, 2010 2:43 pm

You are just an observer in your dream, means it is not about you.
Your dream is some sort of prophecy about the people in the middle east.
Basing on the information above, your dream predicts a great harvest or ingathering of souls among middle eastern people that will result into a joyful feast or celebration in the kingdom of God. And these people will become part of the church of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Your dream is somehow similar to what I have read about middle east prophetically speaking.
In spite of the hostility and persecution of Christians in the middle east. God is assuring us that His kingdom will come in that place.

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Post by hind'sfeet on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:11 pm

AMEN!!! I had thought it could have something to do with that. I've been noticing others dreams about what you say also, it's got me intrigued, I'm amazed!
Here is a video I'm watching right now and it mentions that every 7 years that God's people would make a pilgrimage to Jerusalem to hear the reading of the Torah. Which this is mentioned above in the Sukkot post!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2662031810327980639#
Did you see my dreams that I had about protecting a muslim woman from her would be murderers? I had them a while ago.

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Post by owen on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:14 pm

I´ll check it out!

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