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Post by hind'sfeet on Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:04 pm

I absolutely adore the rugged Jesus!! God has been showing me that I'm more like Jesus than I could ever have imagined. I'm a "girl" but I've never been one for sweet words or sweetness. I grew up being called "sweet" by school mates, but that's not what I was on the inside, that was fear, holding my true feelings in, I was more silent than anything Censored . In highschool, the walls were crumbling that were holding them in and now, I'm still sometimes called sweet, but you better just hold those words to yourself or you might be disappointed... I'm pretty rough around the edges and often lack "tact":oops: , not because I'm trying to be mean but because I'm thinking honest thoughts, not sugar thoughts. Sugar is not natural for me.
So, read on to see about this awesome book about being an overly sweet Christian:

http://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/PCoughlin/11633154/

Monday, June 14, 2010
No More Christian Nice Girl

If you ever went to Sunday school as a child, chances are you saw colorful illustrations of Jesus in action. Remember those? Healing the lame, feeding the five thousand—tremendous miracles performed by a white-robed Jesus with beautiful, long, brown hair. (Just how did Jesus keep his hair looking so silky in that arid climate? Now that was a miracle!) He always looked clean, safe, and…well…nice. Like someone you could bring home to your mother.



Or perhaps, later in life, you were introduced to this one-dimensional Jesus Christ through sermons or books that presented only the sweet side of Jesus. Go into most churches, and you'll rarely hear a sermon about the firm, confrontational, and courageous side of Jesus' personality. Churches sing about "The Old Rugged Cross," but preachers and teachers seldom mention the rugged side of the Savior. For many women, this is not a problem because…let's be honest…the rougher side of Jesus can make women uncomfortable and even lead to an occasional cringe.



For example, weren't you just a little taken aback when you learned that Jesus overturned the money changers' tables and whirled a whip around in the temple courts (John 2)? Somebody could have been killed or accidentally gotten an eye put out. At the very least, Jesus made a big mess, and it doesn't say anywhere in Scripture that he helped clean up.



Or what about in Matthew 15 when the Canaanite mother begs Jesus to heal her daughter, and he responds with, "It is not right to take the children's bread and toss it to their dogs" (v. 26). If he were anyone else, believers would denounce him as being hard-hearted, cruel, and perhaps not even a Christian because he wasn't polite or helpful. In fact, Jesus sounds rude, like he's calling her a dog. What's up with that?



Far too often, when women come to these passages in the Bible, they just skip over them or try to explain away the stronger side of Jesus. They rationalize, "Jesus wasn't really angry in the temple courts. No way. He was calm and amazingly detached as he swung that whip around." They read in the NIV Bible translation that Jesus rebuked Peter with a stern "Get behind me, Satan! You are a stumbling block to me" (Matthew 26:23), and somehow their NGB (Nice Girl Bible) translation turns that into "Jesus got a little annoyed with Peter and tactfully suggested that it would be best for Peter to give him some space to regroup and have a little ‘me time.'"



When Jesus turned water into wine as his first miracle, he made enough vino to fill six huge water vats—over a hundred gallons of wine, more than any wedding party could consume. If anyone else did this, eyebrows would be raised at a "show off" who seems to encourage drunkenness. But it's Jesus, and so believers skim past it.



When Jesus casts out devils, why would a nice savior cast them into a herd of pigs, destroying two thousand animals and what was most likely a family's life savings? (Mark 5:13). He makes no offer to compensate the pigs' owners either. In Matthew 8:18, when surrounded by a crowd of sick people needing healing, Jesus ordered his disciples to take him away to the other side of the lake. That doesn't sound very supportive or compassionate.



At one time he told his disciples to sell their cloaks and buy swords if they did not already have them in order to fulfill the Scripture that "he was counted as one of the bad people" (Luke 22:37-38, Worldwide English New Testament), a fact that has never sat well with his followers, so it's explained away or simply ignored.



Jesus called a nation's religious leaders "whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of dead men's bones and everything unclean" (Matthew 23:27). He declared that he did not come to bring peace "but a sword" (Matthew 10:34), and that he came to "bring fire on the earth" (Luke 12:49).



Though Jesus was not a model of compliance or "good behavior," often women try to put a positive, non-threatening spin on everything he did, acting like public relations spokeswomen covering for a bungling political candidate. They end up doing damage control for the Son of God—and damaging themselves in the process.



Fortunately, Jesus Christ doesn't need damage control or help from an image consultant. As presented in the Gospels, Jesus is most definitely not one-sided. He is the complete embodiment of healthy, balanced human personality; thus, Jesus is immensely compassionate, kind, and gracious while also being assertive, forceful, and firm when necessary. He is good, but he's definitely not "nice" or as safe as many Christians want to believe.



He is a Savior who was fully aware of his actions and words as he lived on earth in human form for thirty-three years. He is also a Savior who says in Matthew 16:24, "If anyone would come after me, he must deny himself and take up his cross and follow me." Not "follow me when I'm nice," but "follow me." No qualifiers, just a straightforward command to walk his walk and talk his talk, whether that walk and talk appears nice or not.



There are several profound problems associated with portraying Jesus as the nicest person to ever skip across ancient soil. First, it's a misrepresentation of Scripture. Presenting half of Jesus (even if it is the gentle half) as the total sum of Jesus requires ignoring almost twenty percent of the verses in the Gospels. That's just wrong. Second Timothy 3:16-17 teaches that "all Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the man of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work." Every verse about Jesus is in the Bible because God wants it there to develop believers into an accurate image of Christ. And yes, that includes verses where women may wince at the forceful side of Jesus.



Second, a narrow focus on the sweet side of Jesus gives women the idea that God wants Christians to behave sweetly in all situations. Here's the problem: Jesus says in Matthew 5:13, "You are the salt of the earth," not the sugar of the earth. Yes, sugar is delicious, particularly in chocolate desserts. However, salt is infinitely more useful than sugar. Salt enhances natural food flavors, preserves food, and is used in manufacturing over 14,000 products (including glass, rubber, metals, textiles, soap, and cosmetics). Salt, unlike sugar, is necessary for human life. In Mark 9:50, Jesus says "Have salt in yourselves, and be at peace with each other," making a clear connection between being like salt and being at peace with others. Your mother may have said, "You can catch more flies with honey than with vinegar," but Jesus wants you to do far more than manipulate people with saccharine pseudo-Christianity. He wants you to be useful in his kingdom and to find following his salty-sweet example practical in everyday life and relationships. (It's no coincidence that most people find a salty-sweet combination of foods irresistible. Snack mix, anyone?) Following the example of an artificially sweet Jesus leads to frustration and has even caused some to walk away from their faith altogether because this example doesn't work well in real life. How could it? It's fake.



Third, portraying Jesus as Mr. Manners in sandals gives the impression that politeness pretty much sums up what it means to be Christ-like. The problem here is that hurt people are not drawn toward perfectly nice people. Folks don't look toward women with perfect etiquette for help when life comes crashing down. Hurting people look toward individuals who, like Jesus, have both fire and compassion in their eyes, individuals who inspire and who will speak the truth in love—even if it stings. This is the kind of Jesus who attracted "people crowding around him and listening to the word of God" (Luke 5:1), people so numerous that "There was no room left, not even outside the door" (Mark 2:2). If you are going to be a woman who draws people to Christ, you need to reflect to the world an accurate image of Christ, not an image of Miss Manners with a cross around her neck.



A fourth and final serious problem occurs when the Lion of Judah is misrepresented as a precious little lamb: women lose Christ's complete example of authentic goodness, and over time, begin to sanctify and pursue false niceness instead of true goodness. They substitute something similar for the real thing, guaranteeing disappointing results.



For instance, have you ever tried to make thick, chewy chocolate-chip cookies and ended up with wafer-thin cookies instead? You may have made the error of substituting a margarine spread for butter in the recipe. They look the same and even produce similar looking dough, but the oven's heat reveals their crucial differences. (That's assuming you didn't eat all of the raw cookie dough first. Margarine spreads are usually 25 to 50% water, so cookie dough made with them will spread more when baked.) True goodness and false niceness are like butter and margarine. They can look similar, but when life's pressures crank up the heat, only authentic goodness will produce the results you want. Far too often, Christian women are fed a watered down version of Christ's goodness and consequently believe that timid compliance and superficial sweetness are necessary ingredients for an abundant life. They substitute bland niceness for real goodness, and then when failure results, women blame themselves and believe following Christ's example doesn't work in everyday life. Nothing could be farther from the truth.



True goodness is immensely useful. If you follow Christ's example of goodness, you will find that Christianity works, and works far better than anything else to produce the abundant life. You just have to make sure that your key ingredient is authentic goodness and not a watered-down substitute.



Paul Coughlin is the author of numerous books, including Unleashing Courageous Faith, No More Christian Nice Guy and No More Jellyfish, Chickens or Wimps. He also co-authored a book for married couples with his wife Sandy, titled Married But Not Engaged. Paul is founder of The Protectors, the values-based and faith-based answer to adolescent bullying, which provides curriculum for public schools, private schools, retreats, and individuals who want to diminish child-based bullying.

Visit Paul's websites at: http://www.theprotectors.org , and http://www.paulcoughlin.net

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Re: No More Christian Nice Girl!!!

Post by Delightful soul on Thu Dec 02, 2010 5:24 am

I have only read the beginning, but I hear ya.

When I met the Lord as a 15 year old I actually saw Him. when I saw braveheart, I actually thought to myself, that Mel Gibson should play Jesus some day and look just like he did in this movie. He ended up directing the passion as you'd know but used someone else cause he felt he was too old. But yeah, I see Jesus as a firebrand warrior!! Cause this is how He revealed himself to me too!

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Re: No More Christian Nice Girl!!!

Post by hind'sfeet on Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:37 am

I love it too!! He makes me feel less like what the church I grew up in expected of me and Him and it makes me feel special because He's like me and He would have been treated like me if He were there with me and He went through stuff too!!

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Re: No More Christian Nice Girl!!!

Post by hind'sfeet on Thu Dec 02, 2010 6:43 am

http://superstore.wnd.com/Books/The-Hebrew-Yeshua-vs-the-Greek-Jesus-Book-and-DVD-Bundle

"Jew teaches Christians about Jesus
Yeshua's conflicts with Pharisees put in fascinating new light
A Jewish Hebrew scholar, a self-described "former Pharisee," is providing Christians with some startling new revelations about their faith.

Nehemia Gordon, a Semitic-language expert and one of the Dead Sea Scrolls translators, is currently in the United States, lecturing in churches and Christian Bible studies on the person he calls "the real Yeshua," Jesus' actual Hebrew name, which means "salvation."

He is the author of "The Hebrew Yeshua vs. the Greek Jesus," a book and DVD teaching series, that is causing a sensation among the Christians all over the world who are rediscovering the Hebrew roots of their faith, recognizing that Jesus was, indeed, a very Torah-observant Jew, not a Gentile who came to do away with the law.

Some of Gordon's most important discoveries came in his translation of what he believes to be the original Hebrew text of the Gospel of Matthew.

The King James translation of Matthew 23:24 has befuddled Christians for hundreds of years. While Jesus indicted the Pharisees, calling them "vipers" and worse, He seems to suggest doing what they say to do in this verse: "Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat: All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not. For they bind heavy burdens and grievous to be borne, and lay them on men's shoulders; but they themselves will not move them with one of their fingers."

But, according to Gordon's translation of the recently discovered Hebrew text of Matthew, there is a slight, but important, mistranslation of the verse – probably a result of an original error in the Greek. Some scholars believe Matthew originally wrote his gospel in Hebrew.

What it actually says, according to Gordon, is for followers to do what Moses says, not the Pharisees. When the Pharisees would sit in Moses' seat, they would read from the first five books of the Bible – the words of Moses. Jesus, of Yeshua, was telling His disciples to heed the scriptural text and disregard the man-made teachings of the Pharisees, explains Gordon.

Gordon's research reveals that the more "modern" Greek text of Matthew, from which the Western world's versions were translated, depicts "another Jesus" from the Yeshua portrayed in the ancient Hebrew version of Matthew. Gordon explains the life-and-death conflict Yeshua had with the Pharisees as they schemed to grab the reins of Judaism in the first century, and brings that conflict into perspective for both Jew and Christian alike. "

I knew it!!

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Re: No More Christian Nice Girl!!!

Post by hind'sfeet on Thu Dec 02, 2010 3:03 pm

Awesome!
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2662031810327980639#

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Re: No More Christian Nice Girl!!!

Post by dreamster on Fri Dec 03, 2010 12:51 am

h/f.. no more ...... ............. D

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Re: No More Christian Nice Girl!!!

Post by hind'sfeet on Fri Dec 03, 2010 5:12 am

:hallelujah: :goodpost:

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Re: No More Christian Nice Girl!!!

Post by dreamster on Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:40 am

ok t u h/f i think u can credit me by klikin on the + button

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Re: No More Christian Nice Girl!!!

Post by hind'sfeet on Fri Dec 03, 2010 11:51 am

:inyourdreams:

:oops:

:justteasing:

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Re: No More Christian Nice Girl!!!

Post by dreamster on Wed Dec 08, 2010 11:09 pm

lol! i;ll that,, u know mi lol!

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Re: No More Christian Nice Girl!!!

Post by hind'sfeet on Thu Dec 09, 2010 9:06 am

:laughing:

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Re: No More Christian Nice Girl!!!

Post by owen on Thu Dec 23, 2010 9:54 am

Hind's,

This post reminds me of this bible verse...

Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God...

Yeshua is both the Lion and the Lamb. He is both Jehova Chesed
and Jehova Sabbaoth.

We need to learn both of His nature.

seeing Him as a merciful Lamb alone, we are endagered of deception and presumption. Seeing Him as a Lion alone, we could become a delusional tyrant.

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Re: No More Christian Nice Girl!!!

Post by Dove-Solutions on Thu Dec 23, 2010 11:01 am

I think of him both ways actually and always have. I never want to feel his wrath but always want to know his gentleness. I realize however that he is the Lion and the Lamb and there is a reason. He is the conqueror and the sacrifice. You cant be the conqueror without first being a warrior. Good stuff.

Love in Jesus,

Connie


~Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not to your own understanding, in all your ways acknowledge Himand He will direct your path.~ Proverbs 3:5-6

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Re: No More Christian Nice Girl!!!

Post by hind'sfeet on Thu Dec 23, 2010 1:51 pm

Amen Owen and Connie!!!
Thank you guys!! Great replies :hallelujah:

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Re: No More Christian Nice Girl!!!

Post by randomhit10 on Wed Dec 29, 2010 7:45 pm

nice does not always get the point across....good post....

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