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When a child is molested he/she becomes fractured mentally, emotionally and spiritually and sometimes it can affect their sexual identity.
Also what should be noted as well that demons can be transferred through sex or molestation. A molester might have a demonic spirit operating in them and their victim also is affected by that same spirit who overtime leads that person to other sexual relationships which makes their situation much worst.
The Occult
In the Old Testament the bible states that the sins of the forefathers fall to the second and third generations. When a person is involved in the occult it affects their future generation if they don't repent and accept Jesus Christ as their personal saviour. Sometimes people deep into the occult have sex with other occultists so therefore demonic spirits get transferred from one person to another because of sex. Or some occultists like some non occultists have sex with various persons and demonic spirits get transferred. When that person involved in the occult dies the demon can be transferred to their children, their grandchildren and perhaps other family members as well.
Also what should be noted as well that demons can be transferred through sex or molestation. A molester might have a demonic spirit operating in them and their victim also is affected by that same spirit who overtime leads that person to other sexual relationships which makes their situation much worst.
The Occult
In the Old Testament the bible states that the sins of the forefathers fall to the second and third generations. When a person is involved in the occult it affects their future generation if they don't repent and accept Jesus Christ as their personal saviour. Sometimes people deep into the occult have sex with other occultists so therefore demonic spirits get transferred from one person to another because of sex. Or some occultists like some non occultists have sex with various persons and demonic spirits get transferred. When that person involved in the occult dies the demon can be transferred to their children, their grandchildren and perhaps other family members as well.
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Re: I have a question about a serious situation
I sent you a PM about some things you sent to me.
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um uve done very well blossom,,and i think ur site name is quite appropriate 4 u..as the lord does his deep work in ur life u will blossom..im sad ur pasta wasnt able 2 help u ,,,a lotta pastas arnt equipped 4 this type of ministry,
um ur on the upward path,,,be patiant wiv urself,,love urself and 4giveurself,,,jesus has paid the price 4 every thing we hav done past ,present an future,, :clap: hes not freakin out even if his body does,,
ther is more grace than u will ever need ok.swerety,, :clap:
only by grace can we enter,,only by grace can we stand,,
hope this helps a little wer here 4 u '' all 4 one''
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um ur on the upward path,,,be patiant wiv urself,,love urself and 4giveurself,,,jesus has paid the price 4 every thing we hav done past ,present an future,, :clap: hes not freakin out even if his body does,,
ther is more grace than u will ever need ok.swerety,, :clap:
only by grace can we enter,,only by grace can we stand,,
hope this helps a little wer here 4 u '' all 4 one''

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Dreamster is so right here. Many pastors are not equipped for this type of ministry. This is something that I struggle with in my church.....I mention demons and these people don't have a clue what I am talking about. I am grateful that my pastor understands the ministry. He supports me doing the ministry but not being involved himself. I do deliverance ministry Monday evenings at an church downtown. It is so rewarding to see people free!
Will keep you in prayer,
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its okay about them not really wanting to do deliverance or not being able. i just believe God has someone out there or maybe He himself will help me. i dont believe he brought me this far to leave me and abandon me.
i dont know why i believe this now but i do.
blossom
i dont know why i believe this now but i do.
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I sent you an email blossom.
Love in Jesus,
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Love in Jesus,
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god cannot abbandon u,, :clap: ur his treasure,,,he will start and complete the work in u ,,,christ in u tha hope of glory,,, :clap: u will make it tru,,
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Preach Pastor Dreamsta!!!!!!

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ohh lordy sweety,,if i do that ,,u mite have 2 take up an offering sweety,, :clap: :clap:
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I haven't read anyone else's response yet because I don't want to be swayed by it before I comment on what came up in my heart. It sounds to me like the woman your friend is having a problem with has a seducing spirit operating in her life and it very well may be geared towards women or even both men and women. Because your friend already has a weakness in this area this spirit likely recognizes that weakness and is attacking your friend through this woman. Obviously your friend is going to have to continue to make good choices. But, she has authority over the spirit that's operating in the life of this other woman and can bind it up and stand against it spiritually without ever needing to be in the woman's presence. I've heard of similar things like this happening with some of my friends. It has been a spiritual battle, but the battle was won and victory was obtained and the "attacks" have stopped. I hope this helps!
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what I wanted to say is that this woman came over wednesday with another one of judy's friends to celebrate judy's birthday. i didnt know that she would be coming over, there was a chance that i would have seen her while she is here. i dont even know if this woman knows what is actually going on in her own heart. she says she is a christian so I dont know. I do know that I felt uncomfortable around her still even though I had been praying about this and wanting freedom from this.
i kind of understand what you said Sandra, that's why I said perhaps this woman doesnt even realize the affect she is having on me ( I am sure the evil spirits know). I don't like feeling like I do. I still had a hard time looking at her although it was not like it was before. Like I said I don't even know if this woman realizes what is going on in her life at all.
blossom
i kind of understand what you said Sandra, that's why I said perhaps this woman doesnt even realize the affect she is having on me ( I am sure the evil spirits know). I don't like feeling like I do. I still had a hard time looking at her although it was not like it was before. Like I said I don't even know if this woman realizes what is going on in her life at all.
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Encouragement For You
Hi Blossom!
Thank you for being honest and sharing!
I agree that what you are dealing with is rooted in the supernatural and does affect your emotions. I also wonder if you are starving to be loved. I am sending you a website that may be of encouragement to you. Please know that you are not alone in this battle and that you CAN and WILL overcome, Amen?
Please do continue to keep us posted as we love you unconditionally.
http://www.exodus-international.org/
Thank you for being honest and sharing!
I agree that what you are dealing with is rooted in the supernatural and does affect your emotions. I also wonder if you are starving to be loved. I am sending you a website that may be of encouragement to you. Please know that you are not alone in this battle and that you CAN and WILL overcome, Amen? Please do continue to keep us posted as we love you unconditionally.
http://www.exodus-international.org/
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i am familiar with exodus international as they are on my bookmark. thanks for the encouragement/
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Blossom, Joyce Meyer is a rad woman, get her cd's and read her books.
I'll tell you something a little about me....that same piece of crap thing (homosexual whatever in hell it is) has been a constant in my spiritual warfare. My dad is verbally abusive towards me (still to this day), never physically abusive. His dad was verbally and physically abusive towards him. These spirits will pass down the bloodlines if they're not stopped. I have a daughter that I pray for all of the time that she will not have this spirit attack her. Pornography, occult...I've been there and done that too.
Blossom, sometimes, this thing will get me in my dreams as I'm sleeping. It'll stick a girl in my dreams and the next thing you know, it's on. It has even brought people to me....I've lost many friends because I've actually had to say "no" to their advances, or I've abandoned the friendship because I knew they were under the influence of that spirit.
It's embarassing and it's almost useless going to a regular counselor about it because they'll tell you to give in to your desires because you were born gay, etc.
This is what I suggest (and I'm going to do this for myself, because actually, your story made me realize that this is a bigger issue in me than I recognized before): There are many churches that offer "healing rooms," I've been to them before for other things. They cast off all sorts of hellish things that attack people. A homosexual spirit is no exception. I know that some of the Vineyard churches have them. If you don't have a healing room in your area, call up some churches and ask if they cast out spirits. If they say, "no" or if they give you an answer that shows you they're shaky on the subject, then go to the next. Pentacostal churches may be a source.
Immediate suggestion: Get a bunch of Christian CD's, whatever kind you like and inundate your brain with God and His Word. Everytime you get a thought, "Resist the devil and he must flee," turn on one of those CD's and go do the dishes, sweep the floor, get on the treadmill.Or go for a walk with an ipod full of Christian music or Christian message downloads (Joel Osteen has free ones, most TV preachers do).
I had to realize that my Heavenly Father is the perfect father figure for me. Jesus is our husband, our lover, our savior, our comforter, our redeemer, our parent, and a friend that sticks close than a brother. He is our everything. For many years I thought God was a tyrant because my earthly father is. God is so the opposite. "It His KINDNESS, (not his mighty might) that brings us to repentance." He is kind, He's our dad, He's the King of Kings, and we are the King's kids. Remind that nasty spirit of that every time he enters. Like True Flight said in the above response, "He stands in the gap"...so there is no gap anymore.
I know you're going to get rid of this thing because everyone on this page is binding the devil on your behalf right now. I plead the blood of Jesus over you right now. I ask Jesus that the anointing will fall so heavily on you right at this moment that you will feel God's saturating love and joy come upon you like a warm fuzzy blanket and sink deep within your soul like an ointment from the heavens healing and mending you. You are blessed and not cursed. The enemy has no place in your life because you're a child of the Most High God. You are a blessed child of the King, you're our sister in Christ, and you have a mighty purpose that only you can fulfill for the Lord.
He says, "If you love me, you will feed my sheep." He loves his sheep, He is the Good Shephard...He laid down His life for His sheep. You're going to help someone, maybe many people, someday with this exact same thing. It may be your calling. Find other people online who have been delivered from this. Get prepared, because God wants to help a lot of people through you. You are so precious. Thank you so much for sharing with us about your struggle. God bless you and protect you sister, we love you and appreciate you!
I'll tell you something a little about me....that same piece of crap thing (homosexual whatever in hell it is) has been a constant in my spiritual warfare. My dad is verbally abusive towards me (still to this day), never physically abusive. His dad was verbally and physically abusive towards him. These spirits will pass down the bloodlines if they're not stopped. I have a daughter that I pray for all of the time that she will not have this spirit attack her. Pornography, occult...I've been there and done that too.
Blossom, sometimes, this thing will get me in my dreams as I'm sleeping. It'll stick a girl in my dreams and the next thing you know, it's on. It has even brought people to me....I've lost many friends because I've actually had to say "no" to their advances, or I've abandoned the friendship because I knew they were under the influence of that spirit.
It's embarassing and it's almost useless going to a regular counselor about it because they'll tell you to give in to your desires because you were born gay, etc.
This is what I suggest (and I'm going to do this for myself, because actually, your story made me realize that this is a bigger issue in me than I recognized before): There are many churches that offer "healing rooms," I've been to them before for other things. They cast off all sorts of hellish things that attack people. A homosexual spirit is no exception. I know that some of the Vineyard churches have them. If you don't have a healing room in your area, call up some churches and ask if they cast out spirits. If they say, "no" or if they give you an answer that shows you they're shaky on the subject, then go to the next. Pentacostal churches may be a source.
Immediate suggestion: Get a bunch of Christian CD's, whatever kind you like and inundate your brain with God and His Word. Everytime you get a thought, "Resist the devil and he must flee," turn on one of those CD's and go do the dishes, sweep the floor, get on the treadmill.Or go for a walk with an ipod full of Christian music or Christian message downloads (Joel Osteen has free ones, most TV preachers do).
I had to realize that my Heavenly Father is the perfect father figure for me. Jesus is our husband, our lover, our savior, our comforter, our redeemer, our parent, and a friend that sticks close than a brother. He is our everything. For many years I thought God was a tyrant because my earthly father is. God is so the opposite. "It His KINDNESS, (not his mighty might) that brings us to repentance." He is kind, He's our dad, He's the King of Kings, and we are the King's kids. Remind that nasty spirit of that every time he enters. Like True Flight said in the above response, "He stands in the gap"...so there is no gap anymore.
I know you're going to get rid of this thing because everyone on this page is binding the devil on your behalf right now. I plead the blood of Jesus over you right now. I ask Jesus that the anointing will fall so heavily on you right at this moment that you will feel God's saturating love and joy come upon you like a warm fuzzy blanket and sink deep within your soul like an ointment from the heavens healing and mending you. You are blessed and not cursed. The enemy has no place in your life because you're a child of the Most High God. You are a blessed child of the King, you're our sister in Christ, and you have a mighty purpose that only you can fulfill for the Lord.
He says, "If you love me, you will feed my sheep." He loves his sheep, He is the Good Shephard...He laid down His life for His sheep. You're going to help someone, maybe many people, someday with this exact same thing. It may be your calling. Find other people online who have been delivered from this. Get prepared, because God wants to help a lot of people through you. You are so precious. Thank you so much for sharing with us about your struggle. God bless you and protect you sister, we love you and appreciate you!

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Hello Blossom,
I had taken some training on deliverance...and one thing one of the teachers had said was...there are no homosexual spirits...people get the opposite gendered spirits in them and think they are then homosexual.
Like...a woman can have a male spirit sort of thing.
It was funny because my friend I went there with...told me she knew she had picked up a male spirit because she found herself being attracted to a woman at her job.
I am wondering if the Lord is teaching you about these types of things in the season your in.
Just now that it's not you!!! But observe what is going on and do take it all to the Lord in prayer...tell him you don't want this and to take it from you! Tell him you are sorry if you have opened the doors to this yourself somehow unknowingly...
Perhaps the Lord plans to use you to minister to others who have the same types of things going on once your set free from it.
Until then, I would stay away from that woman and work not to give place to it which it seems you are already doing.
I think you are doing the right thing by being vulnerable and transparent in your sharing. Sometimes the devil gets more ground if things are kept hidden.
Hope this helps somehow...
I had taken some training on deliverance...and one thing one of the teachers had said was...there are no homosexual spirits...people get the opposite gendered spirits in them and think they are then homosexual.
Like...a woman can have a male spirit sort of thing.
It was funny because my friend I went there with...told me she knew she had picked up a male spirit because she found herself being attracted to a woman at her job.
I am wondering if the Lord is teaching you about these types of things in the season your in.
Just now that it's not you!!! But observe what is going on and do take it all to the Lord in prayer...tell him you don't want this and to take it from you! Tell him you are sorry if you have opened the doors to this yourself somehow unknowingly...
Perhaps the Lord plans to use you to minister to others who have the same types of things going on once your set free from it.
Until then, I would stay away from that woman and work not to give place to it which it seems you are already doing.
I think you are doing the right thing by being vulnerable and transparent in your sharing. Sometimes the devil gets more ground if things are kept hidden.
Hope this helps somehow...
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